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Gee, John Wheeler! Just when I think I am getting somewhere, you come along and bring a lot of other stuff to the table!! One step forward, two steps back...... I'm just poking fun, not upset at all. It's just amazing to me that a simple act like printing has to be so darn complicated....
I do hope you understand that I am now getting very close to what I see in soft proof mode in the print. I think the disconnect to me was the fact that when I went to the print settings display and saw the image in the print settings display that particular image was really off. And I think I might know why - but I would need you guys to verify/confirm. I'm using pro photo as my color space and printing to a wide gamut printer. I suspect that some of the displays, including the one in the print settings, are only capable of a standard sRGB rendition. The color shift is then because the software trying to display my pro photo image in a SRGB space. Does that sound like a plausible explanation?
As to your other Qs, I use teh i1 display pro for monitor calibration. It also has printer calibration capabilities, but I haven't tried them yet. And I have it set to remind me to recalibrate one time a month. And I have also turned off auto ambient light adjustment because it was causing my screen to flicker.
The part that threw me when I first read your suggestions was the part about the monitor itself. But partly after I started checking, I realized that I had been down this path before when I first got the monitor - just had forgotten. Back then, I had first selected the aRGB mode, but it didn't seem like the calibration was "taking." After playing with all the modes, I finally settled on the standard mode. It seemed to be the best mode for using calibration software and pucks. I kinda confirmed this by googling around the internet. Your statement about locking down the settings is throwing me. I haven't specifically done anything of that nature that I know of, and looking around on the OCD menu, I don't seem to see or I don't know what to look for to see if it is locked down. Still researching there.
As for rendering intent, I make sure that I am using the same intent throughout the process. I know I can change it in the print settings menu, but I make sure it is the same intent I used when soft-proofing. That was interesting what you said about the differences between perceptual and relative. I have simply been toggling between the two and trying to see which one gives the best look. Most of the time the differences are very subtle, but every now and then there can be some larger differences. Based on what you said, it seems I should use relative colorimetric. Is that a fair observation?
Soft-proofing/ICC profiles. This is more of a question - since I am using pro photo and not converting to aRGB or sRGB and I am printing to a wide gamut monitor, does it matter? At this point I select the paper ICC profile in soft-proof and then when I set up the printer I select the same paper ICC profile there also. So I should be good to go, right?
I have been checking for out-of-gamut and I have not been getting any warnings, so I haven't really thought of that. But to be honest, I really gotten into color space theory that much and I'm not sure I totally understand. But the gist of what I do understand is that both the software gamut (pro photo) and the printer gamut can produce colors that I can't see. But the colors that each of these things can produce may not be the same, this may cause some color shifts that I will be able to see once printed. And I may either like or dislike the results. Is that a reasonable understanding of the issue? And if it is, I'm not really sure what I would do to correct it, other than going back and changing the intents or maybe converting to sRGB so that I can get the space within the capabilities of what I can see and then modifying to taste. Would that be a reasonable approach?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
Edited on Mar 28, 2014 at 07:47 AM · View previous versions
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