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BobSam
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D7100 & Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-II SDHC


I bought a 95 mB/s card and it works. Now I see they have a
Max. Read Speed: 280 MB/s
Max. Write Speed: 250 MB/s
version available in the newsletter from B&H.
B&H # SAEPSDU16GBQ ■ Mfr # SDSDXPB-016G-A46
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Any experience on buffer clearing speed? I know it looks like a huge leap, but does the D7100 become limited before you reach the promised max card speeds?
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Expensive, but I would spring for them if they do in fact dump the buffer.



Mar 05, 2014 at 03:00 PM
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I think you will find the problem is the camera, not the card. Dd7100's buffer seems brain dead.


Mar 05, 2014 at 03:13 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D7100 & Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-II SDHC


"I think you will find the problem is the camera, not the card."
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Well when I upgraded to the 90 mB/s it made a huge difference.
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Have you, runamuck, used this super fast card in a D7100 or are you just thinking?
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I think we all know what the current cards will do ... this is a new card that is FAST!



Mar 05, 2014 at 03:42 PM
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BobSam wrote:
I bought a 95 mB/s card and it works. Now I see they have a
Max. Read Speed: 280 MB/s
Max. Write Speed: 250 MB/s
version available in the newsletter from B&H.
B&H # SAEPSDU16GBQ ■ Mfr # SDSDXPB-016G-A46
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Any experience on buffer clearing speed? I know it looks like a huge leap, but does the D7100 become limited before you reach the promised max card speeds?
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Expensive, but I would spring for them if they do in fact dump the buffer.


Try this first. With the 95 mb/s card shooting raw try dropping down to 12 bit compression from the 14 bit you most likely have set now. By doing this I can get 11 frames before the buffer jams up. If I really want to machine gun exposures when they are not critical you I can drop down to jpg. medium and 1/3 crop no back up card and fire off 25-30 frames continuous. If you really need more than that you need to get a D4.



Mar 05, 2014 at 04:38 PM
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unclemikey wrote:
...drop down to jpg. medium and 1/3 crop no back up card and fire off 25-30 frames continuous. If you really need more than that you need to get a D4.


Who wants to shoot jpg medium @ 1/3 crop? The next logical step is a D4? So the best upgrade to a $1,100.00 body is a $6K body. You might want to re-think that.



Mar 05, 2014 at 04:52 PM
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Well I have a D3, but the smallness of the D7100, with a grip, has stolen my heart, so no D4s in my future. :-) High school gym lighting has improved to where I am happy with what I have.
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AND the speed of these cards is close to a spinning hard drive when using a usb3 card reader. I think. :-) And thus will reduce my download time to my computer. If time was that important to me now.



Mar 05, 2014 at 04:59 PM
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Jim8EL wrote:
Who wants to shoot jpg medium @ 1/3 crop? The next logical step is a D4? So the best upgrade to a $1,100.00 body is a $6K body. You might want to re-think that.


That comment was sarcasm. I never shoot in jpg any more...ever. I'm just saying that I can get adequate quantity of shots in 12 bit raw but if you want your camera to sound like a machine gun then one can make this happen with the D71K.
Don't shoot me Jim, I'm friendly.



Mar 05, 2014 at 05:43 PM
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The speeds advertised with "UHS-II" cards are not possible in a D7100. The camera will work just fine with the card, but it will not support the full advertised speed of the card.

Why is this? Simple. "UHS-II" cards have a second row of pins behind the first which are also used to achieve full "UHS-II" speeds. It's backwards compatible with devices that take "UHS-I" cards (like the D7100) but it will only operate at "UHS-I" speeds over the single row of pins.

Upgrading to the 90MB/s card probably made a difference because "UHS-I" supports those speeds. A "UHS-II" card that advertises 300MB/s will probably also get you around 90MB/s while running at the lower "UHS-I" speeds. So upgrading won't make sense for you, unless you buy a new camera that takes "UHS-II" cards.



Mar 07, 2014 at 07:08 PM
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There is only one camera that currently supports the UHS-II specs and that is the Fuji XT1.


Mar 07, 2014 at 07:14 PM
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Thanks guys for that valuable information AND explanation. Exactly what I was looking for.


Mar 07, 2014 at 07:26 PM
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I think the D7000 and D7100 buffer size is the same. So, regardless what cards you use, the most you can get is 14 shots before the buffer filled up (with 12bit, no NR, no Auto distortion, and compressed raw). Most people can get about 10 to 11 with 14bit, lossless raw compression, and with NR. BTW, with auto distortion enabled, it takes up a lot of memory space on each RAW shot. With it enable, I get about 8 shots. With it disabled, I can about 10. Also, the ISO settings do not affect the buffer size at all.


Mar 07, 2014 at 07:44 PM
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What is the limitation of shooting 12 bit vs 14 bit-- do you loose color accuracy, resolution....??


Mar 08, 2014 at 06:54 PM
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I found this interesting

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"The Nikon D7100 is capable of UHS-1 including UHS104. Nikon has stated the D7100 can achieve a write speed of up to 99MB/s."
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From this article
Link .) http://d7100.org/2013/03/sd-card-speed-comparison-for-nikon-d7100/

End of 4th paragraph


However
this link says implied 45MBs (under max write speed in chart)

Link.) http://www.bythom.com/currentdslr.htm




Mar 08, 2014 at 10:26 PM
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Also I found it very noticeable to go from a Sandisk Ultra 30MBs to the Sandisk Extreme 45Mbs which is currently the fastest card I have.



Mar 08, 2014 at 10:28 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D7100 & Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-II SDHC


You should try the 95mb/s cards. They are all I use in my D7100 and D600. I don't know anything about the specs, but the buffer clears far more quickly than with the 30mb/s cards or even the 45mb/s cards (I have some of both).


Mar 08, 2014 at 10:35 PM
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I would like too, hopefully soon thanks


Mar 08, 2014 at 10:39 PM
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unclemikey wrote:
...That comment was sarcasm. I never shoot in jpg any more...ever. I'm just saying that I can get adequate quantity of shots in 12 bit raw but if you want your camera to sound like a machine gun then one can make this happen with the D71K.
Don't shoot me Jim, I'm friendly.



No sarcasm intended... well maybe just a little . To be honest, I found the suggestion that the OP spend 5K to get reasonable buffer performance little bit flippant. Just goes to show that we have to be careful how we state things in print as it doesn't always come off just right.

The real issue is that IMO Nikon's lineup has a big hole for sports/wildlife shooters that hasn't been addressed. That one would have to spend big $$$ and move to FF to get decent buffer performance while maintaining quality output seems absurd to me. Cheers



Mar 08, 2014 at 11:29 PM
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ddjohns1 wrote:
What is the limitation of shooting 12 bit vs 14 bit-- do you loose color accuracy, resolution....??


you lose some color depth. for many it is irrelevant but then for some the inverse is true.


http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/14-bit-raw-12-bit-part-two.html



Mar 09, 2014 at 07:05 AM
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Jim8EL wrote:
No sarcasm intended... well maybe just a little . To be honest, I found the suggestion that the OP spend 5K to get reasonable buffer performance little bit flippant. Just goes to show that we have to be careful how we state things in print as it doesn't always come off just right.

The real issue is that IMO Nikon's lineup has a big hole for sports/wildlife shooters that hasn't been addressed. That one would have to spend big $$$ and move to FF to get decent buffer performance while maintaining quality output seems absurd to me. Cheers


Jim, the sarcasm I referred to was mine, not yours. Plus my comment was flipent to be sure. How many threads have we read regarding things we would like in a camera but aren't going to get? It's just not in the marketing profile.

Certainly I would love to have the same buffer in my D7100 and my D800e that the D4 or new D4s has but if Nikon did that what need would a pro or any photographer need to spend $7,000 on a camera body? As I read here on FM many of us are using $5-7000 glass already and if we can we'll spend that on lenses. Therefor, why should Nikon presume the same folks wouldn't spend that on the body? I understand bodies come and go every couple of years and lenses can bridge those new bodies for a much longer period of time. I'm my thinking Nikon has to consider who they are pandering to with new cameras and what they are willing to spend to get everything needed for their type of shooting. After all most of the prosumer bodies are not used to make a living. Just my thoughts on this but I'm a photographer in a particular niche market and don't shoot with the requirements of using more than the D7k or D800e's. With manipulation of the included program they are fast enough for me.



Mar 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · D7100 & Sandisk Extreme PRO UHS-II SDHC


what is the best card to use when shooting RAW?


Mar 23, 2014 at 09:20 AM
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