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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Uses for tilt-shift


I don't believe I've ever seen a thread on the uses for a tilt-shift lens, particularly the 24mm. Landscapes obviously, but anything else? close-ups? flowers? What do you that have and use one of these lenses, shoot with it?

Thanks in advance,
keith

If there is a thread on this subject point me at it and thanks much!



Mar 01, 2014 at 02:38 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Uses for tilt-shift


There's a whole thread of tse pictures


Mar 01, 2014 at 02:53 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Uses for tilt-shift


There is a thread here with t/s images, but these can do so much more than landscapes. Architecture is what they were originally designed for, allowing movements similar to traditional view cameras for perspective control. The 24 t/s is far and away my favorite product photography lens, but I use it for product, portraits, architecture, landscape, industrial and even some quasi macro images as well. If I had to choose a single non zoom lens it would absolutely be the 24 T/S II.


Mar 01, 2014 at 02:58 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Uses for tilt-shift


This'll get you started.

Canon TS-E, TS, Shift and PC Images [Jim Harris (Gunzorro) ] http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1219961
- [my Battle Harbour examples] http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1219961/7#11836518
- [my basic summary of movement effects] http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1219961/8#12126166

Want to master a Tilt n Shift ? http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1109125/0#10588672

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1132088/0
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1009506
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1217488
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1162834/
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/882423

Some interesting stuff

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1226917
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1219410
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1170267
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/995375
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/856722

Mirex Tilt-Shift [compendia]

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1198679
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1198679/0#11429244



Mar 01, 2014 at 03:00 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Uses for tilt-shift


Yep! You've just entered the TSE Zone!

Tons of examples and advice in the threads noted by Jim C -- he's also done a lot of comparison against other lenses! Peter Figen is a great contributor with some terrific shots.



Mar 01, 2014 at 06:12 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Uses for tilt-shift


Along with the above links you can also look through the EXIF Gallery here on FM, you can pick and choose images to view by body, lens, brand, etc., it's a menu option, or just clink the link below.

FM EXIF Gallery
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/exifgallery.php



Mar 01, 2014 at 06:23 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Uses for tilt-shift


TS-E lenses are very useful for architecture because of the shift function for perspective correction. It's very useful to shift the lens up or down while still keeping the camera level, which let's you use compose the image without the problem of converging lines which should be parallel. (As a bonus the 24II also is very good for architecture because of its lack of any significant barrel distortion.)

Here's the 24 TSEII in an example from a recent architectural shoot:







Shifting the lens up allowed me to get the walkway on the second floor incorporated into the composition, as well as the light fixtures. If this was done without a shift lens the camera body would either need to be pointing up which would make all the straight lines lean back; or keeping the camera level there'd be much more of the floor in the foreground instead of the architectural elements at the top.

It is possible to mimic perspective correction like this in software...although it does cause slight degredation of the image, and also will require cropping a notable chunk of the field of view in the image: http://www.arthurdomagala.com/blog/2013/04/perspective-correction-lens-vs-software-2/




Mar 01, 2014 at 06:30 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Uses for tilt-shift


I've just publish eCigarette, an entire series done with a7r and 90tse. Tilt allowed me to adjust sharp plane to get all I wanted in focus, which couldn't have been done without tilt.
http://www.nicolasgenette.com/photos/Fovea.php
(Sorry I'm with iPhone and not easy to post Picts)



Mar 01, 2014 at 09:37 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Uses for tilt-shift


beanpkk wrote:
close-ups? flowers?


The 24mm TSE lens can focus very closely, so yes, you can do close-ups.

Not sure if that would fall into the definition of "macro".

The lens also takes a 1.4x converter well, giving you ~34mm on a FF camera.



Mar 01, 2014 at 01:13 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Uses for tilt-shift


I am a relatively new owner and user of a 24mm f3.5 TS-e lens. I bought it to use for work related achitectural photo's but have practiced with it in different applications to get used to the feel and function of the lens. My biggest issue (which is common in many areas for me) is patience. These lenses are extremely good and deserve the time it takes to use it correctly in order to fully realize their capability. The sample I am including does not show this patience - it is a hand held shot - yet it still stood out against my other shots from the day. I used this lens on a recient trip to Spain and used it along with a 24-105 and I cannot stress enough that when I got back to the hotel and downloaded the pictures of the day the results from the TS-e clearly stood out in IQ, clearity and rendition (contract - color).

Although I mostly use the shift function for architecture, I have played with the tilt function for increased depth of field in landscape and flower pictures as well. I look forward to using this lens more this spring outdoors and expanding my experience and ability.

Another great use is for specialized portraits. Control over depth of field and OOF manipulation. A great source to see multiple uses for these lenses are on Flickr - the 24mm f3.5L TS-e II Pool. Something that I have not done as of yet is to include extenders or tubes. There are so many applications.

Jim





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  Canon EOS 5D Mark III    TS-E24mm f/3.5L II lens    24mm    f/10.0    1/320s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Uses for tilt-shift


WOW -- thanks for all the responses. And the links too. I appreciate all of your time and efforts.

Thanks!
keith



Mar 01, 2014 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Uses for tilt-shift


If you own an iphone or ipod touch then it's hard to go wrong using this: http://www.snapi.org/snapi/Tilt_Calculator.html


Mar 05, 2014 at 07:20 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Uses for tilt-shift


I have a nice phablet, but I still use this...







Mar 05, 2014 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Uses for tilt-shift


Nice chart. You've never had to compose a shot where the camera body is not at 90 degrees from the horizontal plane? Once I tried to photograph an indoor scene where I was trying to get a lot of small objects on the ground, with the camera just above the ground. Both the camera body and the lens were tilted. I was not very successful getting objects both far and near in excellent focus. Perhaps if I had a few more years under my belt of using a TS lens I would have done a better job. But for me at that time the calculator app would have been very helpful, because it takes into account camera body tilt too. It's not clear to me how useful the chart would be in such a situation. I'm an android user myself but I got a used ipod just so I could use this app and maximize the use of my 24mm TSE.




Mar 06, 2014 at 07:25 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Uses for tilt-shift


ngaio wrote:
Nice chart. You've never had to compose a shot where the camera body is not at 90 degrees from the horizontal plane?


I do that all the time. That's what the little table at the bottom of the figure is for; it shows scale factors for tilt angle, as a function camera angle (nose down).

Anyway, it's just a starting point. After getting it into the ballpark, I use the classic Large Format approach: focus near, tilt far; not focus far, tilt near, because the TS-E lenses and Mirex T-S adapter are "axis tilt", not "base tilt". In practice, it often involves a lot of iteration, with focus checks all over the place...



Mar 06, 2014 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Uses for tilt-shift


90mm TSe + 2x + ext ring(s) = Macro with DoF on DSLR!

Use it all the time. Those are very very small things...synthetic tear ducts and heart valve tube






Mar 06, 2014 at 02:39 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Uses for tilt-shift


Egor, was the Eurocent out of focus (DoF) by choice, or was that beyond the limits of the lens?


Mar 06, 2014 at 03:07 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Uses for tilt-shift


Tilting has very little effect on macro shots. Read up on Scheimpflug Effect to understand why. This is also the basic physics behind why tilts and swings work and how they work. Once you understand these principles you probably won't need a calculator at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheimpflug_principle




Mar 06, 2014 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Uses for tilt-shift


Krementz: Euro was out of focus in back by choice

Peter: i disagree. Tilting has EVERYTHING to do with dof on macro. In both examples I just showed, without changing the plane of focus thru tilting, dof was limited to about 1mm or less.
I have been shooting macro with 4x5 since the 70s. It is a fundamental. Not sure why you would say that?



Mar 06, 2014 at 03:46 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Uses for tilt-shift


I agree with Egor. Tilt can be very useful for macro; however, its effects are not as 'universal' as with scenic photography, as the DOF is relatively much more slender at close subject distances.


Mar 06, 2014 at 04:02 PM
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