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p.5 #1 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


I finally read this thread and I thought I was back on dpreview at first.

Sony have been criticized in the past for not enough lenses and poor quality (and rightly so). Their initial lens lineup has made a lot of sense from the standpoint of higher quality lenses. Personally I think the furor over the 24-70 being soft are the edges at 24 is way overblown, but that's just my opinion. The 70-200 is equivalent to the Nikon and Canon offerings which is what you would expect for a full frame camera. As long as it delivers on IQ it will be a great lens. If they had delivered a variable aperture, they would have been roasted for not delivering higher quality lenses ...again.

Geez, it's just a lens.



Feb 12, 2014 at 07:27 PM
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p.5 #2 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


Does it come in black?


Feb 12, 2014 at 08:21 PM
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bcaslis wrote:
Geez, it's just a lens.


Totally agree. I do sympathize with the idea that it's "big for mirrorless". But most of the fast-ish, pro quality mirrorless telephoto zooms have been fairly "big". All Sony have done here is start with the big, high quality lens instead of first releasing a bunch of slow, oftentimes crummy lenses. M4/3, for example, has a bunch of telephoto zooms you can choose from. Only one of them is any good (the Panny 35-100). It's really offering you a false choice, since if you want a high quality lens you only have one option at this point. There's an Oly zoom coming that looks pretty large, and there's a fast Fuji tele zoom coming that also looks big. If you don't want to buy one of the big lenses, on most of the systems you have the option of buying a lower quality lens. Sony doesn't have that yet, but since they had to start somewhere, I'm glad they started with this.

Like I said before, I literally waited years for Nikon to release a lens like this for FX. Sony have done it in the first six months.



Feb 12, 2014 at 08:38 PM
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p.5 #4 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


carstenw wrote:
Does it come in black?


No, Sony inherited Minolta's styling for the 70-200's. (and no, they aren't copying Canon, both Nikon and Minolta had white telephoto's before Canon did)



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:47 PM
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itai195 wrote:
Totally agree. I do sympathize with the idea that it's "big for mirrorless". But most of the fast-ish, pro quality mirrorless telephoto zooms have been fairly "big". All Sony have done here is start with the big, high quality lens instead of first releasing a bunch of slow, oftentimes crummy lenses. M4/3, for example, has a bunch of telephoto zooms you can choose from. Only one of them is any good (the Panny 35-100). It's really offering you a false choice, since if you want a high quality lens you only have one option at this point. There's an Oly
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In M4/3, there are plenty of great options, not just the 35-100mm. There is the Pana 100-300mm, 45-200mm. Then Olympus 75-300mm is also great. They may not be fast but the IQ is great.



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:49 PM
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itai195 wrote:
Like I said before, I literally waited years for Nikon to release a lens like this for FX. Sony have done it in the first six months.


Nikon released an equivalent in 1987, with the very first batch of lenses for AF, the 70-210/4 AF-Nikkor. Admittedly it did take them 25 years to update properly, and the iterations kept getting lower-end until the 70-200/4VR came.



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:49 PM
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leo11877 wrote:
In M4/3, there are plenty of great options, not just the 35-100mm. There is the Pana 100-300mm, 45-200mm. Then Olympus 75-300mm is also great. They may not be fast but the IQ is great.


It's up to personal tastes, but I wouldn't call those great. They're okay. The 45-200 is significantly overrated, in my opinion. The 100-300 is cool given the range it offers, but it's basically the equivalent to any other manufacturer's 70-300 variable aperture consumer-level zoom.



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:50 PM
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leo11877 wrote:
In M4/3, there are plenty of great options, not just the 35-100mm. There is the Pana 100-300mm, 45-200mm. Then Olympus 75-300mm is also great. They may not be fast but the IQ is great.


The only one of those that's great is the 35-100. The other 3 lenses you list are good but not outstanding in terms of optics (you also missed both better choices for a slow telezoom, the m.Zuiko 40-150 and the Panny 45-175 OIS, both of which are better than the slower lenses on your list)



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:51 PM
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mawz wrote:
Nikon released an equivalent in 1987, with the very first batch of lenses for AF, the 70-210/4 AF-Nikkor. Admittedly it did take them 25 years to update properly, and the iterations kept getting lower-end until the 70-200/4VR came.


True. I guess I don't count that because it was only made for a very short time IIRC. I started counting from around when Canon updated their version to include IS, which I think was around 2005?



Feb 12, 2014 at 09:53 PM
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leo11877 wrote:
In M4/3, there are plenty of great options, not just the 35-100mm. There is the Pana 100-300mm, 45-200mm. Then Olympus 75-300mm is also great. They may not be fast but the IQ is great.


I'm not saying the m43 lenses are not good optically, but if Sony have reached an f6.3 zoom, the complaints would have been off the charts. I saw enough complaints that Sony wasn't releasing an f2.8.

The speed of the Olympus 75-300 is one reason I never bought one. A 300 f6.3 just wasn't cutting it, even if it was optically good.

I think they have correctly targeted a good size/performance ratio with these lenses. If it delivers optically it will be pretty nice.



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bcaslis wrote:
I'm not saying the m43 lenses are not good optically, but if Sony have reached an f6.3 zoom, the complaints would have been off the charts. I saw enough complaints that Sony wasn't releasing an f2.8.

The speed of the Olympus 75-300 is one reason I never bought one. A 300 f6.3 just wasn't cutting it, even if it was optically good.

I think they have correctly targeted a good size/performance ratio with these lenses. If it delivers optically it will be pretty nice.


Sony has released a f6.3 zoom, the DT 18-250. Few complained.



Feb 13, 2014 at 01:48 AM
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Sony has released a f6.3 zoom, the DT 18-250. Few complained.


No, the closer we get to pro FF DSLR level, the more chosy people become. Look at the FE 35/2.8. It was a sea of complaints that it was only f/2.8. Had Sony made a huge 35/1.4 for launch, there would be a sea of complaint it's too big. The closer we get to max 35mm quality, the number of people accustomed to well known focal lengths and max aperture increases and they want on FE what they had with their Nikon FF DSLR. An FE lens with f6.3 would have been a crime to the FE crowd. I would be curious to see how big a 70-200/5.6 would be, but Sony knows that lens would not sell among the FF crowd.

People accustomed to APS-C DSLR don't know what an 85/1.4 looks like on FF so when they move to mirrorless, there are fewer complaints.



Feb 13, 2014 at 01:59 AM
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p.5 #13 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


The cool thing about an interchangeable lens system, whether it be full frame, DSLR, mirrorless, or whatever, is that the lenses are interchangeable. So you don't have to use this one if you don't want to


Feb 14, 2014 at 03:38 AM
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p.5 #14 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


If you are willing to sacrifice AF and IS, the Canon FD 80-200 f/4 L is 153mm length, 675g, and about $350 on ebay. Its a very highly regarded lens for IQ. Personally, I have an FD 100 f2 and a Nikon AI 200 f4. If I only carry one or the other on a given shoot, I have a much smaller lens with much better IQ.


Feb 14, 2014 at 03:48 AM
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p.5 #15 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


still little pricey considering its f4


Feb 14, 2014 at 03:57 AM
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jimo wrote:
If you are willing to sacrifice AF and IS, the Canon FD 80-200 f/4 L is 153mm length, 675g, and about $350 on ebay. Its a very highly regarded lens for IQ. Personally, I have an FD 100 f2 and a Nikon AI 200 f4. If I only carry one or the other on a given shoot, I have a much smaller lens with much better IQ.


I could be willing to sacrifice AF and IS for a smaller and lighetr landscape lens, but then the lens must support a tripod collar. Does it?



Feb 14, 2014 at 08:35 AM
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jimo wrote:
If you are willing to sacrifice AF and IS, the Canon FD 80-200 f/4 L is 153mm length, 675g, and about $350 on ebay. Its a very highly regarded lens for IQ. Personally, I have an FD 100 f2 and a Nikon AI 200 f4. If I only carry one or the other on a given shoot, I have a much smaller lens with much better IQ.

alundeb wrote:
I could be willing to sacrifice AF and IS for a smaller and lighetr landscape lens, but then the lens must support a tripod collar. Does it?


No. This lens is a one-touch push-pull zoom/focus style and there isn't space on the barrel for a tripod collar.



Feb 14, 2014 at 09:39 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
No. This lens is a one-touch push-pull zoom/focus style and there isn't space on the barrel for a tripod collar.

I use an adapter with a small tripod collar, not the most stable solution but stable enough.
While my FD 80-200 L is super sharp in the center the corners aren't that great on the A7, do other owners share this experience?



Feb 14, 2014 at 09:45 AM
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Spyro P. wrote:
no way, this is only f22 in large format.


Ah, but what is the equivalent focal length in LF terms? 80cm?



Feb 14, 2014 at 09:46 PM
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p.5 #20 · Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens announced


Has anyone tried the c/y 80-200? I have compared the fd 80-200 to the ef 70-200 f4 and the ef lens is sharper, at least in the corners, but only marginally so


Feb 15, 2014 at 01:22 AM
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