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p.3 #1 · New wildlife lens speculation


A surprisingly good lens is the Sigma 150-500mm f5~6.3 zoom lens. It is also a great value at the $1,070 price it sells for at B&H, et al.

This would be my choice as an alternative to the 80-400mm f4.5~5.6 VR Nikon zoom that sells for more than twice as much and is not without its share of problems. Mine has already been sent into Nikon for autofocusing problems.



Jan 04, 2014 at 08:30 PM
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p.3 #2 · New wildlife lens speculation


Nikon 300 f4's and f2.8's have always been top of the line optics.


Jan 04, 2014 at 11:58 PM
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p.3 #3 · New wildlife lens speculation


I got the 300 F4 and have been shooting with it plus tc 1.7 for 2 days. As long as the light is great and you aren't very far away, the results are fantastic. I've been using it on my old D300s as to get some more reach.. i loaned out my D7000.

One thing I noticed is it is VERY slow to find focus. I chase hawks and I have missed some good shots as a result of this. Is this normal? Is the camera partially to blame?

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Jan 05, 2014 at 01:21 AM
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p.3 #4 · New wildlife lens speculation


I have the 300 AFS F4 also, with 1.4 tc, it was also slow to focus on the D300s i had, but put that combo on the D3s and it was like night and day difference


Jan 05, 2014 at 02:24 AM
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p.3 #5 · New wildlife lens speculation


Not only would putting it on a pro body improve AF performance, IQ would be (much) better as well. FX plus the f/4 300 + 1.4x combo in the hands of skilled wildlife photographers produces fairly good results.


Jan 05, 2014 at 02:41 AM
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p.3 #6 · New wildlife lens speculation


The D300s is a pro body isn't it? Is there another DX body that is more "pro" at this point?

I need to try this lens/tc combo on my D3s to see if it takes as long to find focus....

I'm just trying to find out if it is a product of the lens or the body or the tc or a combo.



Jan 05, 2014 at 05:05 AM
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p.3 #7 · New wildlife lens speculation


I was setting my foot on 80-400 AFS...which is way better than the first generation VR one...but here comes a Tamron


Jan 05, 2014 at 06:49 AM
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p.3 #8 · New wildlife lens speculation


With DX you seriously handicap yourself with converters because you end up using only a tiny portion of the glass. Throw in the D300s's slowish AF performance, and you have what amounts to a paperweight in many field situations. My advice: Limit use to good light, and then primarily to capture more pixels for portraits. (There are never enough pixels on a 12 MP sensor!)

If you MUST regularly use converters with this lens, do yourself a favor and use a D3s, D4 or even D800.

My friend Ray, a professional wedding photographer and brilliant retoucher, shoots wildlife on the side with a D3s + f/4 300 + 1.4x. It can be done!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ps50ace/with/11625613053/



Jan 05, 2014 at 10:12 AM
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p.3 #9 · New wildlife lens speculation


Christian, thanks.. I originally read the letters in your post above as "DX" not "FX". I will try the lens on my D3s some more. I wasn't getting great results with it because I didn't have as much reach. It is really tough to get close to these hawks around here... faster AF would help though.

Thanks



Jan 05, 2014 at 04:13 PM
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p.3 #10 · New wildlife lens speculation


The 1.7x works pretty well for me on the D7100. I actually use it more than the 1.4x. Keep in mind that the 300 f4 + 1.7x is effectively a 500 f6.7, so Af speed is going to depend more on available light.
I have used an old 80-400 + 1.4x effectively 560 f8 with a D80. With the screw driver on that combo I could actually here and see the Af slow down.
The D7100 is engineered to focus to f8, but depending on the light, >5.6 only the center focus point is being used and that sometimes misses with a rapid sequence of shots.
But if you can't afford or don't want to carry a 300 f2.8 or 500 f4, the 300 f4 is still the best option.



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p.3 #11 · New wildlife lens speculation


Seriously doubt Tammy'll come close to my poor man's 600 combo
D800 1.2 crop mode with the 300 f4/TC-17E II
Handheld, SOOC...from the next zip code



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in FX ~70% crop

  NIKON D800    500mm    f/8.0    1/1250s    400 ISO    -0.7 EV  






~50% crop in 1.2 mode (600mm)

  NIKON D800    500mm    f/8.0    1/1250s    400 ISO    -0.7 EV  



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Jan 05, 2014 at 04:29 PM
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p.3 #12 · New wildlife lens speculation


Will, does the D800 focus the 300 f/4 considerably faster than a D300? Does the 1.7tc affect the speed of focus acquire? Thanks. Love your images.


Jan 05, 2014 at 04:36 PM
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p.3 #13 · New wildlife lens speculation


blutch wrote:
Will, does the D800 focus the 300 f/4 considerably faster than a D300? Does the 1.7tc affect the speed of focus acquire? Thanks. Love your images.


Ya, FX pro bodies will do just that. My D3/D700 rock this pairing with ~ 95% in focus captures too!
The AF will slow down a tad (programmed by Nikon with TCs attached) BUT with good technique
and proper settings (decent light a given) I couldn't be happier. (I'm out ~$1150 for the combo)
Oh thank you!



Jan 05, 2014 at 04:48 PM
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p.3 #14 · New wildlife lens speculation


HOw many dynamic focus points Will?


Jan 05, 2014 at 05:26 PM
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p.3 #15 · New wildlife lens speculation


I'm at 9 unless small and erratic...then 21
Focus tracking to OFF (it's really not...just less than Short)



Jan 05, 2014 at 05:40 PM
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p.3 #16 · New wildlife lens speculation


Buy some camo and patience Then the 300 f/4 + 1.4 TC is a cheap(er) way of birding

I've used this combo on a D7000 and D3S with fantastic results.



Jan 05, 2014 at 06:47 PM
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p.3 #17 · New wildlife lens speculation


Good idea, but the hawks I hunt are near the city close to busy roads with lots of traffic. As long as you are moving, they don't notice you. When you stop or pull over.. then they get wary and fly off quickly. This is why focus acquire is a factor.. I often only have seconds to pull the trigger. These birds are almost always on private ground, so I can't go stalking after them anyway.

I don't have the 1.4 TC, I have a 1.7. A D800 would give me more crop possibilities.. it is on the list for a future purchase. When I super crop with the D3S there is a great deal of quality lost.

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Jan 05, 2014 at 07:36 PM
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p.3 #18 · New wildlife lens speculation


trenchmonkey wrote:
Seriously doubt Tammy'll come close to my poor man's 600 combo
D800 1.2 crop mode with the 300 f4/TC-17E II
Handheld, SOOC...from the next zip code


Ah now Will you can't fool me, I Know your new love is the 80-400, I'm watching....always watching, just like big brother.

Seriously though, the 300 f4/TC-17E II does work well, especially in good light. I shot a few horse events with that combo and a D600 which is not a pro body and it had no problems whatsoever.





  NIKON D600    300.0 mm f/4.0 lens    500mm    f/6.7    1/2000s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jan 06, 2014 at 05:12 AM
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p.3 #19 · New wildlife lens speculation


I was given this D300 and found...it less fast than my D800


Jan 07, 2014 at 12:32 PM
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p.3 #20 · New wildlife lens speculation


trenchmonkey wrote:
Seriously doubt Tammy'll come close to my poor man's 600 combo
D800 1.2 crop mode with the 300 f4/TC-17E II
Handheld, SOOC...from the next zip code

Willy Y. wrote:
Ah now Will you can't fool me, I Know your new love is the 80-400, I'm watching....always watching, just like big brother.

Seriously though, the 300 f4/TC-17E II does work well, especially in good light. I shot a few horse events with that combo and a D600 which is not a pro body and it had no problems whatsoever.


Nice grab! Should have gotten a picture of me returning the 80-400 yesterday On FX,
it's a "no thanks" as I'm willing to cough suffer thru my tried and trues FTW. The 300/TC-17
and 200 f2/TC-20 III serve the BIF 'monkey well...and they're paid for Most magical IQ
@200/300/340/400/500 so I say "f the zoom" Versatility a compromise...I'll stay primed.



Jan 07, 2014 at 12:56 PM
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