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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I might be outdated but if this is somewhat solid rumor, it will be awesome.

http://www.canonwatch.com/sigma-rumor-16-20mm-f2-dg-lens-set-come-soon/



Dec 19, 2013 at 04:57 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


That's seems ridiculous IMO. Why not a 45-50 f/1.4 or maybe a 90-105 f/2 OS or the supertele 550-600 f/4 OS.

I would have been stoked if it were a useful 20-35 f/2 or 35-70 f/2 OS, or they finally did a very high quality UWA zoom like a 14-28 f/2.8.



Dec 19, 2013 at 05:04 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I don't know. The Tokina 11-16mm is basically the same zoom factor as this - and that's a popular lens. 4mm at the UWA end is a lot. I could see it for astro work...even just using the 4mm to frame a landscape will be more useful than a prime. The f/2 is pretty sweet too. It's not much in terms of zoom, but if it delivers, people will buy it. I agree it would be nice to see a more useful range though.


Dec 19, 2013 at 05:19 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Large range zooms are not the only useful or interesting lenses that provide more than a single focal length. For example, Leica and others produced some lenses that could be switched among several fixed focal lengths. Others have produced small range zooms in the past, too, and they can be smaller than "regular" zooms and produce very high quality images.

Such a beast would not interest everyone, but the flexibility in a single small lens would be useful to some.



Dec 19, 2013 at 05:22 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


gdanmitchell wrote:
Large range zooms are not the only useful or interesting lenses that provide more than a single focal length. For example, Leica and others produced some lenses that could be switched among several fixed focal lengths. Others have produced small range zooms in the past, too, and they can be smaller than "regular" zooms and produce very high quality images.

Such a beast would not interest everyone, but the flexibility in a single small lens would be useful to some.


Yes the Leica Trimar is one example but it covers the 16-35mm range, not the 16-20mm range.

A 14-28, 20-35 or 35-70 is hardly a large zoom range



Dec 19, 2013 at 05:37 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


The Tri-Elmar is 16-18-21 and is over $6K.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/461971-USA/Leica_11642_Tri_Elmar_M_16_18_21mm_f_4_Asph.html



Dec 19, 2013 at 06:02 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Peter Figen wrote:
The Tri-Elmar is 16-18-21 and is over $6K.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/461971-USA/Leica_11642_Tri_Elmar_M_16_18_21mm_f_4_Asph.html


Oops, oh well back to the drawing board.



Dec 19, 2013 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Sure, that's a pretty small range, but I can see some usefulness.

First of all, the focal length ratio of the zoom (20/16) is 1.25. That is larger than or similar to the ratios of some prime combinations that many people own/carry such as 100/85 (1.17), 50/40 (1.25), 50/35 (1.43). Also, in my experience, framing is often more critical at the very wide end, so getting 10% more image can be very important. Not usually the case with longer FL.

Many people have zoom lenses that start at either 24mm or 28mm. If you want to go wider, you have to either choose a prime (less flexibility) or often a zoom with a large overlap with your existing lenses (17-40). Some would view that overlap as waste (though some would disagree, of course). So instead, this lens stops short and gives you something else instead: speed.

Or if you shoot wide and like to use primes, this single lens could replace two in your bag. (Of course, the IQ would have to be exceptional, since that is the reason most people choose primes in the first place).



Dec 19, 2013 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Yes the Leica Trimar is one example but it covers the 16-35mm range, not the 16-20mm range.

A 14-28, 20-35 or 35-70 is hardly a large zoom range


A direct comparison to the FL range of the lenses was not my point. My point was that there is room for designs that do not conform to the typical modern large FL range zooms.

If this lens is not much larger than a prime in this FL range, the increased adjustability may be useful to some who want to fine tune compositions in this range - whether others think so or not. If you disagree... don't buy one! ;-)

Dan



Dec 19, 2013 at 06:47 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Maybe they decided to go for 16-20 because they have discovered some truly epic optical formula?

What if this lens is even sharper and better overall IQ than the legendary Nikon 14-24?



Dec 20, 2013 at 02:21 AM
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Rickuz wrote:
Maybe they decided to go for 16-20 because they have discovered some truly epic optical formula?

What if this lens is even sharper and better overall IQ than the legendary Nikon 14-24?



Then it would be a roaring success - time will tell.



Dec 20, 2013 at 02:34 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


Shame it's not 16-21, as historically some makers (Canon) offered 20mm, and others (Leica, Olympus) 21mm. It would be nice to simply finesse that old argument.

I can see this being attractive to pair with a fast 35mm more than for landscape. For landscape the speed isn't much advantage and I would want to be able to zoom between around 20mm and 28mm conveniently, i.e. what is already available with the Canon 16-35 and 17-40 and others.

BTW I strongly suspect we got the 16-35mm because it was equivalent to 21-45mm on APS-H, a range of classic journalistic focal lengths; the original 16-35mm f/2.8 and the EOS 1D were both introduced in December 2001. So I see nothing sacrosanct about 16-35mm.



Dec 20, 2013 at 02:40 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


They should just go the whole way and make a 14-24 "Art" @ 2.8


Dec 20, 2013 at 07:57 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


What's so magical about the 14-24 range. We never discussed this range at all until Nikon released its lens.


Dec 20, 2013 at 08:58 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I would have been interested in this lens if it had appeared earlier, however I have now sitting under my Christmas Tree the Canon 16-35 f/2.8L II lens.



Dec 20, 2013 at 09:00 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I replaced a Sigma 20mm f/1.8 with the Canon 24mm f/1.4 mkII, and while I love the autofocus, IQ and aperture advantages of the Canon over the Sigma, I miss the more dynamic perspective of the 20mm. So in that range 4mm seems like a very substantial change in perspective to me.

I would definitely be interested in this lens, especially if it's as sharp as their other recent designs and if they're able to keep the distortion down.



Dec 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I agree with Mark, its a dramatic difference between 20 and 24, and I owned the 24LII loved it, but want a bit wider for interiors. Have a 17-40L that I am itching to upgrade, this looks real interesting (or the Tokina 16-28, a great lens, too)


Dec 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


If it's usable at 2.0 , ie sharp enough low CA and vignetting then I will buy it asap.

Sounds like the ideal astro lens. I can shoot wide field at 16mm and use the 20mm end to stitch.

It has to be good at 2.0 though



Dec 20, 2013 at 02:15 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


I'd be potentially interested, and though I'd rather see 16-24, I might be game for 16-20 if they could a.) keep the size small and b.) keep it fast. At those focal lengths, there is actually a fairly large difference between 16mm and 20mm.


Dec 20, 2013 at 03:08 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Sigma will release 16-20/2 Art in 2014


In my own perspective, it's very useful and effective focal length. How many of us use 16-35 zoom on the long end? Most likely the widest end 16-24 or 20. 24-70 MKII beat down 16-35 from 24-35 range.


Dec 20, 2013 at 04:35 PM
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