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michaelwatkins wrote:
A7r - Leica Elmarit 24mm 2.8 ASPH unknown aperture, 1/60s ISO 100 - stopped down some certainly.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3708/10880982535_4b69de15c6_c.jpg
DSC09944 by wattoinni, on Flickr

Draw your sword of conclusion.


No point at al using that great lens on the sony. If I see how good these lenses are on the M8 and M9, I really don't see the point in using them on the A7/ A7r where they become average with only a good center..



Nov 16, 2013 at 01:40 PM
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It seems like there is a deliberate plan behind these all; supported by Sony as well as Zeiss too. I do not believe any company would invest such huge amounts of money and efforts to come up with two hi-tech bodies to perform great with the majority of the wider portion of available rangefinder lenses. I do not believe Sony engineers who created some finest sensors in the last couple of years have fallen short in supplying a proper IR filter on top of the sensor like the ones on the Leica M (or M9) or lacking technology to come up with offset microlenses aligned (or configured) optimally; I do not believe they wanted these at all. Why would they? An AF lens in average costs about one third or half of a body, constituting almost a camera price for an average user having two-three lenses, why would they kill the possibility of making the same revenue twice and amortise their investment in shorter time (also before Canon or Nikon come up with something similar, who knows..)

We saw the same movie with the introduction of X-trans sensor too; on which only their native lenses performed flawlessly despite of the smaller sensor size; make the sensor-covering layers 2.5mm thick to sell your own wides. The remarkable point with the optical designers at Fujifilm or Zeiss, they know how to come up with some splendid lenses by overcoming the "handicaps" they created with their own hands; Fujifilm wides work better than anything else on X-trans sensors, the new FE 55mm and 35mm Sonnars are stellar lenses; we already started seeing how they perform against the best lenses available from any brand on any body no matter what they cost.

I tend to believe more on a sophisticated plan "devised" by Sony-Zeiss collaboration to define a new standard for top-class short-register mounts. IMHO, we are going to see some more short FLs from this collaboration to be regarded as being the reference-class. If I would be investing some $100M's to develop some innovative bodies to sell around for $2K, then I would rather find a way to sell my own lenses as well.... specifically my own lenses..

The new trend seems to be custom designed lenses for custom designed sensors; specific formulas, specific software methods. Leica have been doing this since years, now the others will follow the example... Fujifilm first, then Sony.. perhaps in 2014 Nikon or Canon?



Nov 16, 2013 at 03:48 PM
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Telephone by dakw23, on Flickr

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Nov 16, 2013 at 04:01 PM
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Summilux 50 version unclear

Several sample here

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Nov 16, 2013 at 05:23 PM
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the fence by arcaswissi, on Flickr

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Nov 16, 2013 at 05:29 PM
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Uhoh7, could you please stop posting other peoples images like that? Use the share function on Flickr so that the photographers name and the name of the image turns up directly below it. There will also automatically be a correct link to each image.


Nov 16, 2013 at 05:53 PM
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_DSC0092-Bearbeitet-Bearbeitet.jpg by arcaswissi, on Flickr

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Nov 16, 2013 at 07:00 PM
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We all have a 21 summilux lying around, right?

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjMyGC9U



Nov 16, 2013 at 08:28 PM
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Sony A7R & Leica M9 & X2 by andrewXu, on Flickr

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Nov 17, 2013 at 02:09 AM
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Lux looks sweet. It better for 10k.


Nov 17, 2013 at 02:12 AM
 

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Too many links..my phone is struggling to keep up.
This would be way more enjoyable with direct images



Nov 17, 2013 at 02:36 AM
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dasrocket wrote:
Too many links..my phone is struggling to keep up.
This would be way more enjoyable with direct images

Won't be too long before some members have the camera,



Nov 17, 2013 at 02:56 AM
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the canon 50/.95 looks surprisingly sharp wide open:

20131115-DSC00234 by cityusam01, on Flickr

also, i'm kinda diggin the look of the konica hexanon 35/2 in the same photostream. doesn't seem to have much corner smearing stopped down either.

i have high hopes for the 35 lux pre-asph.

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Nov 17, 2013 at 03:47 AM
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I also think the 35lux pre should work out quite well…. Derek - did you order the A7?


Nov 17, 2013 at 03:54 AM
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Here is his blog w/ rf lenses:
http://cityusam01.blogspot.com/2013/11/sony-a7_14.html

sebboh wrote:
the canon 50/.95 looks surprisingly sharp wide open:

also, i'm kinda diggin the look of the konica hexanon 35/2 in the same photostream. doesn't seem to have much corner smearing stopped down either.

i have high hopes for the 35 lux pre-asph.




Nov 17, 2013 at 03:58 AM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
I also think the 35lux pre should work out quite well…. Derek - did you order the A7?


nah. I can survive with my rx1 till the summer. by then we should have nailed down which works better with rangefinder lenses and I can buy it off someone here who's anticipating the next great thing.




Nov 17, 2013 at 04:16 AM
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I'm in the same camp. I have such a great variety of RF glass now, I would not want to start over again… Depending on the performance of the A7, I may end up selling my D700 even thought it isn't worth much anymore.


Nov 17, 2013 at 04:21 AM
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serhan_ wrote:
Here is his blog w/ rf lenses:
http://cityusam01.blogspot.com/2013/11/sony-a7_14.html



Wow. There's all kinds of really interesting unusual lenses in there. What the heck is a Minolta Rokkor 28mm G 3.5 LTM?

I'm not pixel peeping these at 100% (yet), but just a quick look shows the A7 likes wider RF glass a lot better than the A7R does.




Nov 17, 2013 at 04:25 AM
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That is what I am checking also. It looks like he has some converted glass from Japanexposures/ Miyazaki. Leica Summarit 40mm F2.4 M colors are very nice, but expensive... He has also interestingly small SONNETAR 50mm f/1.1 MC. He has a review with mixed results of that lens, esp bokeh.

I haven't seen the Avenon 21mm f2.8 LTM before either. From what I found it is an another interesting lens, produced in small qtys by a Japanese who passed away...

ebrandon wrote:
Wow. There's all kinds of really interesting unusual lenses in there. What the heck is a Minolta Rokkor 28mm G 3.5 LTM?

I'm not pixel peeping these at 100% (yet), but just a quick look shows the A7 likes wider RF glass a lot better than the A7R does.





Nov 17, 2013 at 04:56 AM
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sebboh wrote:
nah. I can survive with my rx1 till the summer. by then we should have nailed down which works better with rangefinder lenses and I can buy it off someone here who's anticipating the next great thing.



That's a good call, but I think everyone here would love to see what you could do with an A7 and all those cool lenses you have - especially the Rokkor 58/1.2. I know you love the lens in the RX1 but I'm always left feeling it's just a bit too perfect and smooth.



Nov 17, 2013 at 05:34 AM
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