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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


The Z15 have stupid hood design by my opinion, this integrated hood increase size and almost does not works like a hood - very wide angle. The huge front cap can be used as a plate for soup

For me send to Germany was very expensive and I ordered the parts for modification (for same money but in this case I'll keep old parts). I am planning to replace myself. The front cup will be from Hasselblad H lenses (95mm):
http://www.henrys.com/58072-HASSELBLAD-95MM-FRONT-LENS-CAP.aspx

I guess the replace operations not so difficult... Let's see



Nov 15, 2013 at 08:19 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


I rented a D800E and the Zeiss 15mm and the 14-24mm Nikon to test it out at night and honestly there was not a huge difference between the two in pure image quality terms at f8~f9:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1199128/0

The Zeiss is of course superbly built and mechanically it feels very very nice.



Nov 15, 2013 at 09:01 AM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


Has anyone seeing a picture of the modified 15mm f/2.8 (sans hood) ?


Nov 15, 2013 at 03:16 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


Fred Miranda wrote:
Has anyone seeing a picture of the modified 15mm f/2.8 (sans hood) ?


Hi Fred, you can see photos of the modification here.
http://lenses.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/service/modification_distagont2815.html



Nov 15, 2013 at 03:44 PM
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MIRANDA1 wrote:
Hi Fred, you can see photos of the modification here.
http://lenses.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/service/modification_distagont2815.html


Awesome, thx for posting. Wondering why they just do not sell the lens like that in the first place.



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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Sneakyracer wrote:
Awesome, thx for posting. Wondering why they just do not sell the lens like that in the first place.

Not sure, I purchased my copy shortly after it was available for sale, at that time the mod wasn't available. I think they should make both versions available rather than having to send it off to Germany for the mod. With or without it's a fantastic lens.



Nov 15, 2013 at 05:56 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon



I wish they had rigged up some type of removable hood as part of the mod. I guess that would have driven up the cost even more. But there are times where I'd still want the hood...and right now it's an all or nothing decision.

-Tim



Nov 15, 2013 at 07:02 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


Interestingly I contacted Zeiss US about the process for the modification and here is their reply back:

" There are currently three options available for using cut filters with the ZEISS Distagon 2.8/15 SLR lens

1) Lee Filters and Fotodiox both produce filter holders which mount to the front of the lens. This would allow the use of cut filters without modifying the lens. This is a less expensive solution and the shade would stay intact for those occasions when you do not need to use a cut filter.

Lee Filter SW-150: http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera-directory/camera-dir-list/category/sw-150-starter-kit
Fotodiox Wonderpana - http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/wonderpana-145-essentials-kit-system-holder-lens-cap-and-cpl-filter.html

2) Purchase the current lens and we will forward to the factory on your behalf for modification. The price and lead time for this modification can be found at: http://lenses.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/service/modification_distagont2815.html

The lens should be shipped to:
Carl Zeiss Camera Lens Division
Attn: Distagon 2.8/15 Lens Shade Modification
One Zeiss Drive
Thornwood, NY 10594


3) Purchase a new lens which has already been modified lens through an authorized Zeiss dealer in the U.S. This configuration is managed as a special order and you will not find it listed on any of our dealer's web stores.

Product: Distagon 2.8/15 ZE (modified without lens shade)
Item: 2069-923
List Price: $3,288

Product: Distagon 2.8/15 ZF.2 (modified without lens shade)
Item: 2069-924
List Price: $3,288

Please note, once the lens has been modified, it will not be possible to attach a lens shade to the front of the lens.

Sincerely,
Carl Zeiss
Camera Lens Division "


I didn't realize you can actually purchase the modified version, special order however.



Nov 16, 2013 at 06:54 PM
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MIRANDA1 wrote:
Interestingly I contacted Zeiss US about the process for the modification and here is their reply back:

" There are currently three options available for using cut filters with the ZEISS Distagon 2.8/15 SLR lens

1) Lee Filters and Fotodiox both produce filter holders which mount to the front of the lens. This would allow the use of cut filters without modifying the lens. This is a less expensive solution and the shade would stay intact for those occasions when you do not need to use a cut filter.

Lee Filter SW-150: http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera-directory/camera-dir-list/category/sw-150-starter-kit
Fotodiox Wonderpana - http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/wonderpana-145-essentials-kit-system-holder-lens-cap-and-cpl-filter.html

2) Purchase the current lens and
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I don't think LEE 150 can work with ZEISS 15 F2.8, because that adapter designed for NIKON 14 24 only



Nov 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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dreamplayer wrote:
I don't think LEE 150 can work with ZEISS 15 F2.8, because that adapter designed for NIKON 14 24 only


Of course it can work with the Zeiss lens if Zeiss say it can

Wish that I could afford the lens



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Erik_J wrote:
Of course it can work with the Zeiss lens if Zeiss say it can

Wish that I could afford the lens


I emailed to LEE Filters.

LEE says SW 150 can't work with ZEISS 15 F2.8. They will find a solution to make it work.



Nov 19, 2013 at 02:37 AM
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I had and returned a Ziess 15. I have a hard time finding any UWA landscape scenes that don't require shift to keep level. Very nice lens but my 17TSE was a better choice for most scenes I encountered.

After I returned it, I got a 16-35 for the versatility of a zoom on those occasions when I could shoot level or near level and a 14 Samyang for when I really needed 14. (not often)

The 16-35 is my most used WA lens because it will AF and I never got good at MF. In fact that was also a problem with the Zeiss, and hard stop infinity did not seem to work either. Funny, the Samyang can be focused to a preset distance on the scale, the Ziess seemed to be a bit shy of infinity at hard stop. The 16-35 in AF using live view focus nails it every time.

I use the 17TSE when I need shift. Its sharper than the 16-35, but only when I nail manual focus. Not often.

The ability to use screw in filters on a 15 is not a big deal, I seldom use polarizers below 35mm because of the uneven sky problem. I do use ND grads however and they don't work as screw ins. My 17TSE takes any filter in my system with my homemade filter holder and lee system. I use the same filters on all my lenses.

The Ziess was a great starlight lens, but in my opinion, there is still too much noise for large printable images at high ISO on my 5D3. Star images look great at web size but are usually too dark to print. If it won't print well I am not very interested.










Nov 19, 2013 at 03:12 AM
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ben egbert wrote:
I had and returned a Ziess 15. I have a hard time finding any UWA landscape scenes that don't require shift to keep level. Very nice lens but my 17TSE was a better choice for most scenes I encountered.

After I returned it, I got a 16-35 for the versatility of a zoom on those occasions when I could shoot level or near level and a 14 Samyang for when I really needed 14. (not often)

The 16-35 is my most used WA lens because it will AF and I never got good at MF. In fact that was also
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I have both Ts17 and Zeiss 15/2.8 and largly agree with Ben.

I don't use cp filters or ndgrads on a uwa lens because it causes more work than it cures and most of the effect can be achieved with autobracketing and blending.

In day time. and near dawn or dusk hours the TS17 is by far the best lens because you don't have to choose between using 1/2 the image [you have to level and crop the bottom off with Zeiss to achieve non warped trees] or having warped trees and leaning mountains in your pictures. With the zeiss and samyang you have to choose.

But for night shooting of the milky way or northern lights, the Zeiss is the best lens. If you are on a really good sky tracking equipment the advantage narrows(requires 1/2 the exposure for Zeiss vs Ts17), however the TS17 requires good light to manually focus which is a challenge in the dark . The canon ts17 focus settings move quickly vs slowly on zeiss and it permits finer focus and the infinity focus is easy to find on the zeiss and very hard to find on the TS17 in the dark.

However, there the samyang is a strong possibility for night shooting too. The zeiss is definitely better for ca and not having mustached barrel distortion, but they are suprisingly close given the price differences. And both f2.8

So for most people, the combination of TS17 and Samyang 14/2.8 combination is a cheaper and better choice.

I still would print milky way shots that come from the Zeiss though which is one area that I may not agree with Ben.



Nov 19, 2013 at 07:30 PM
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a 14mm shift only lens from Canon would be great.




Nov 19, 2013 at 07:39 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


Zeiss seems to be getting the "snob factor" down really well. It's disappointing to see, because they used to be such a fair and good value. I thought the 15 might be pretty good from Zeiss. Pass. IMO once I saw that price, this lens is way overpriced for a MF wide prime. Sorry Zeiss, you missed the mark on this one as well as the 4K 55mm. IMO

Doug



Dec 07, 2013 at 02:14 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


I think it all depends on what level of optical performance you are are willing to settle for. For some phtographers the incremental improvements in performance that Zeiss offers are not worth the significantly higher cost and I fully understand that. In the case of the 15mm focal length I did not care for the compromises I would have to make if I had purchased a lower priced alternative. Do I wish Zeiss lenses cost less? Of course, but I also realize that you often times get what you pay for.



Dec 07, 2013 at 04:47 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


mike reid wrote:
got to find a wealthy lens enthusiast with gear adhd


Did you bug a Zeiss marketing team's meeting?



Dec 07, 2013 at 05:30 AM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


The Zeiss 15mm f2.8 performs much like the Nikon 14-24mm f2.8G, except it's a little bit sharper, and lacks the Nikon's focus shift/field curvature issues.


Dec 13, 2013 at 03:56 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
Hood?

I like the hood, as is. No fuss, no muss. Always ready, in shooting position. Can't forget to bring it.



And you don't have to worry about being seen using the lens with the hood mounted backwards, like so many "pros" on YouTube...



Dec 13, 2013 at 05:57 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · TDP Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon


I tested the 15mm Zeiss and my 14mm L II is as sharp all over the frame. The only downside of the Canon is that it has more CA, specially closer to the borders of the frame. the 15mm Zeiss has little to none. That is impressive. The 14-24mm was also very good and very close to the Zeiss. But the Zeiss is easier to filter (no hood version available). No need for those huge 150mm filters.


Dec 13, 2013 at 10:47 PM
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