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Awesome, awesome, awesome! Thank you Paul, James, and Lee!!
Excellent insight and I was envisioning best case scenario, but you're right! I will make sure to have more people on site during the shoot.
P Alesse wrote:
Product line... mag covers, memory mates, trading cards, buttons/keychains/magnets/game day tickets and all that other knick-knack pattywack give a dog a bone novelty items... YMMV. The basic staples are prints, memory mates, mag covers, and traders in most markets.
Any recommendations on a good starting price point? I read somewhere that they used $15 for their entry level package because that's what got them in the door with the league/club, but that seems ridiculously cheap! I noticed Lee's package starts at $25 (which seems more reasonable)
P Alesse wrote:
Lighting/Strobe... too lengthy to write it up here. All I can say is that it has to get done right. Hoping you have that experience down pat. Honestly, it shouldn't be in question. If it is... you're not ready to take on T&I at this time.
I have done a lot of strobe/flash work and I have the technical portion down, but that's more of a studio style setting with three lights (or more) and it just seems to be an over kill for high-volume T&I sessions. The reason I ask is because I've seen a local T&I company use just a speed-light on-camera for a league with 1500+ kids... It's not my style, so I'm curious what the typically setup is for someone that has the T&I system down? Speed-lights (I would be worried about them over heating), continuous lights, Alien Bees/Einsteins, etc...? And are you doing two lights (one key and one hair) OR going all in and using all three lights (key, fill,hair)?
Have you ever taken team and individual photos before...even just one team as a stand-alone?
Yes - I've done a lot of "stand-alone" team shoots. This allows me to take more time with each kid and shoot multiple posses, but high-volume T&I is a workflow I'm not familiar with..
make sure you have a lab in place with a proven track record to handle your orders with a full-line of products...prints ( 5 x 7's, 8 x 10's and wallets), custom memory mates, photo buttons, trader cards and fridge mags are the biggest sellers where I am from but items such as acrylic statuettes and I-phone covers are also good to have.
I wouldn't even approach a league without having your packages already set up with a full-service photo lab that specializes in sports.
I have an account at WHCC and Bay Photo, but have never used them in this capacity. Anyone here use either lab solely for T&I?
make sure you schedule enough time for your teams on picture day...15-20 minutes per team should be enough for soccer with 3 teams per hour.
Noted. I'll probably err on the side of caution and go with 25-30 minutes for the first attempt.
if possible, attend a parent meeting or have your order forms passed out well in advance so parents can call with questions or have examples on your website of products available
I have my order forms printed in envelope form so the money is placed inside and sealed.
Where do you get them printed at?
Make sure you leave enough room around team and individual photos for proper cropping. I use a full-frame camera such as a D3, D3s or D4 and set the aspect ratio at 5 to 4 so I have an 8 x 10 format within the view finder frame to judge my crop.
Interesting, is it easier to pull a 5x7 from a 4x5 crop? I've never given that much thought.
Make sure your staff can work well with people under stressful situations...especially the photographers. I am finding out that more and more children have some form of learning disability and behavior disorders and you must be patient and sensitive with those in the team and individual photos...plus the stressed-out parents and many like to show their bad side on picture day.
Another good point! The other photogs I have in mind all shoot kids and family stuff, so they know what to expect.