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M635_Guy wrote:
Guys - I'm not trying to start a fight. Both of you are probably better photographers than I am (been consistently impressed with your work Jason). Here's the thing: I own the 50mm f/1.4G and the 85mm f/1.8G. Both of these lenses are very sharp for me and have really nice bokeh. My keeper rate is high with them. I've shot a bit with the 85 f/1.4G and it seems be just as sharp with better contrast and really nice tone. People seem to get consistently nice results with all three of those lenses.
That said, there are a lot of images in this thread that just look soft to me. Call that pixel-peeping if you want, but it makes me wonder if people are struggling with good technique with a lens that wide open, if the lens is more sensitive for some reason to the variability of body/lens alignment (factory manufacturing variation), if the lens itself doesn't tend to be as sharp as its brothers, if the lens has more sample variation from the factory or even that folks need to fine-tune this lens more than others. Maybe the answer is greater or lesser degrees of several of those?
At the end of the day, some of you are doing some really strong work with this lens, but I see others that look like good intentions but less than they could be. Since that seems to be more true of this specific lens more than any other I've seen, it seems like a fair topic. If you'd rather have that debate outside this thread, I understand it (and will abide), but it isn't named a "shots" thread.
(and fwiw, I'll always take the "get out and shoot" advice! )...Show more →
No worries; no fight/argument/debate is happening here.
Here's the reality; the 58 is a finicky lens that requires solid technique for multiple reasons. I'd argue that in regards to focal length, 58mm is going to put people in a thinner DoF than they'd be in with an 85. Assume both wide open; an 58mm at 6ft has a thinner DoF than an 85mm at 10ft. With 50 vs 58, that 8mm of compression in my opinion makes a hell of a difference and I think it amplifies the OOF problems. The 58 as a lens is definitely harder to use than others; the AF does seem to be less consistent than others. It has a lot of CA as well which will really make any OOF image very noticeable (it's called some kind of flare, but the name is slipping me)
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