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The 58mm F/1.4G Thread

  
 
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p.213 #1 · p.213 #1 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


With those propellers. It sure looks beefy.




Jul 28, 2016 at 08:05 AM
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p.213 #2 · p.213 #2 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


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With those propellers. It sure looks beefy.



Yeah, it has power to spare. They are C-130 Hercules engines d-rated to 4000 horsepower a side. If you go higher than that you run the risk of twisting the airframe.



Jul 28, 2016 at 08:10 AM
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p.213 #3 · p.213 #3 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


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Completed my captain's ride on our CV580 retardant bomber.


Insane shot! I love flying in a prop plane.. you can really feel the push and the sound they make inside the cabin is intense!



Jul 28, 2016 at 03:21 PM
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p.213 #4 · p.213 #4 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


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Holy Cr@p! If it renders anything like the 58, my soul is for sale. One careful owner, only minor sins......


I don't think it renders as 58g.

The 58g has rendering with:

A. undercorrected SA which makes background bokeh smooth and foreground bokeh edgy (details on this effect). This effect is most visible just around in-focus plane assuming bokeh is big enough to see it. It is least visible when you focus very close and inspect highlights near infinity distance.

B. optical vignetting causing "cat's eye" or "lemon shape" bokeh outside of center when used wide open (swirling effect).


The 105/1.4 has B, it is visible here.


But I don't see A. The bokeh is big, but it seems smoother in foreground rather than in background like in this sample (f/1.4).


Or in this full resolution sample where out of focus earring (left side of picture) has quite strong edges.

There is one caveat though: high level of sharpening or clarity can make neutral bokeh into bokeh with pronounced edges. So more pictures are needed for better evaluation. Also amount of SA correction is not constant for all focus distances and it can also be uneven in a picture by distance from center.

Amount of LoCA is reasonably low in this full resolution sample.

Still it is very interesting lens.

There are more full resolution samples available here.



Jul 28, 2016 at 03:54 PM
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p.213 #5 · p.213 #5 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


jtra wrote:
I don't think it renders as 58g.

The 58g has rendering with:

A. undercorrected SA which makes background bokeh smooth and foreground bokeh edgy (details on this effect). This effect is most visible just around in-focus plane assuming bokeh is big enough to see it. It is least visible when you focus very close and inspect highlights near infinity distance.

B. optical vignetting causing "cat's eye" or "lemon shape" bokeh outside of center when used wide open (swirling effect).

The 105/1.4 has B, it is visible here.

But I don't see A. The bokeh is big, but it seems smoother in foreground rather than
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Quote nikon rumours

→ The new 105mm f/1.4 lens is designed with the same "three-dimensional high fidelity" concept as the 58mm f/1.4 lens:

The "three-dimensional high fidelity" NIKKOR lens design concept enables rending of the large and beautiful bokeh with gradual transition from the focus position increases and a natural sense of depth.

Chromatic aberration, ghosting and flare is minimized by three Extra-Low Dispersion (ED) elements. Nano Crystal Coat (N) outperforms conventional antireflection coatings over a broad wavelength range for maximum contrast. Like the AF-S NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4G, point light sources are reproduced naturally without sagittal coma flare and minimized astigmatism, even at the frame edges. An electromagnetic diaphragm (E) maintains consistent exposure during high-speed capture, while fluorine coat ensures a lifetime of brilliant performances.



Jul 28, 2016 at 04:14 PM
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p.213 #6 · p.213 #6 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I've never bought a lens based on early sample shots. The only way to buy any lens in my book is to wait for the lens's image thread on FM, it never disappoints


Jul 28, 2016 at 06:28 PM
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Jul 29, 2016 at 03:46 AM
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p.213 #8 · p.213 #8 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


jtra wrote:
The 58g has rendering with:
A. undercorrected SA which makes background bokeh smooth and foreground bokeh edgy


Hm, I don't see that in my 58G pictures. The lens has very smooth foreground bokeh (relatively). Here's a shot where I played with the foreground bokeh, sorry for the lousy composition, problem was the space was too narrow to get a better angle.

Markus







Edited on Jul 29, 2016 at 06:49 AM · View previous versions



Jul 29, 2016 at 06:10 AM
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p.213 #9 · p.213 #9 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


The foreground bokeh is definitely not as smooth as the background bokeh but ,in my opinion still looks very nice. Especially compared the the sigma art which is suppose to have smoother foreground bokeh


Jul 29, 2016 at 06:47 AM
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p.213 #10 · p.213 #10 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Tanari wrote:

http://www.tanari.de/58/18.jpg


great moment, love this shot



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p.213 #11 · p.213 #11 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


@milkod2001: Thank you!


Jul 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM
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p.213 #12 · p.213 #12 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Here's another shot with foreground bokeh, from the south of France.

Markus







Jul 29, 2016 at 12:13 PM
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p.213 #13 · p.213 #13 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


jtra wrote:
The 58g has rendering with:
A. undercorrected SA which makes background bokeh smooth and foreground bokeh edgy

Bohemien wrote:
Hm, I don't see that in my 58G pictures. The lens has very smooth foreground bokeh (relatively). Here's a shot where I played with the foreground bokeh, sorry for the lousy composition, problem was the space was too narrow to get a better angle.


In your shot the focus is on infinity while car is quite close - in that case SA has weaker effect on bokeh than in cases where focused plane and bokeh subject are closer.

I don't own 58g (although I have considered buying one and I watch this thread closely since beginning), but you can test your's with this test target displayed on monitor from angle: http://jtra.cz/stuff/essays/bokeh/bokeh-test-lines.png

What I expect is that you will get is something like in the first row here:





(this is from 105 DC, where DC ring allows you to select amount of SA correction to affect bokeh; first row is undercorrected SA for smooth background bokeh).

Recently Marianne Oelund tested 58g in very similar way (just using led light) here: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58088963 (click on the picture to see it bigger). 85/1.4g is in same picture for comparison, few other lenses are in followup comments.

I have a description why such bokeh occurs here: http://jtra.cz/stuff/essays/bokeh/




Jul 29, 2016 at 12:24 PM
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p.213 #14 · p.213 #14 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Elijah wrote:
These don't count. You have posted these.

Let's see the real proof!


I feel like selling it again. In fact I may get rid of everything. I just don't feel like shooting anything anymore...



Jul 29, 2016 at 02:04 PM
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p.213 #15 · p.213 #15 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Joseph. wrote:
I feel like selling it again. In fact I may get rid of everything. I just don't feel like shooting anything anymore...


I smell.... LIES!



Jul 29, 2016 at 02:11 PM
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p.213 #16 · p.213 #16 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Joseph. wrote:
I feel like selling it again. In fact I may get rid of everything. I just don't feel like shooting anything anymore...





Jul 29, 2016 at 05:49 PM
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p.213 #17 · p.213 #17 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


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Jul 30, 2016 at 07:10 AM
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p.213 #18 · p.213 #18 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Baxter waiting for the test drive that always comes after working on the car.

Watchful Eye by David Peterlin, on Flickr



Jul 30, 2016 at 07:24 AM
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p.213 #19 · p.213 #19 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I need to adjust the focus on my camera, for this lens.
But I'm lazy.
Anyone have a good place to start, on a 810?

























Jul 31, 2016 at 01:01 PM
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p.213 #20 · p.213 #20 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Dj R wrote:
I need to adjust the focus on my camera, for this lens.
But I'm lazy.
Anyone have a good place to start, on a 810?



Shooting a bar code and looking at the color fringe is the easiest way. When it's gone you're good.



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