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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D700 or D600?


I'm looking to expand my level of photography so the next level would be moving to FX. All of my lenses are all FX already just waiting for me to make the jump. I have a tight budget so I'm looking at either the D600 or D700 but I have no idea which one to purchase. I shoot a lot of low light, natural light, animals, landscapes, macro, flowers, commercial products, sports, concerts, all sorts so I need to make sure that my next camera body will fit my style.

Now... I like the idea of the camera remote controls on the front of the D700 but I also like the idea of shooting 24 megapixels with the D600, too. Low light is another concern for me. Which would be better?

I'm completely torn by this decision.... Can anyone help with their thoughts and maybe share some examples of their work with these cameras?



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D700 or D600?


I have doubts the AF on the D600 will keep up with some sports. Maybe horseshoes. As for "moving up to the next level," I think there's a good chance you're setting yourself up to be disappointed.


Kent in SD



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D700 or D600?


How would set myself up for disappointment?

DX to FX is a big jump especially in ISO capabilities. Ok, the D600 may be a little slow, but what about the D700. I know with the MB-D10, the D700 can shoot up to 8 fps.

Any more thoughts?



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:16 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D700 or D600?


And what are you shooting now?


Nov 04, 2013 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D700 or D600?


D700 is still a very good camera, who cares if it's only 12MP - plenty still by today's standards unless you're planning to print REAL big. I haven't used a D600 so I cannot comment on that one.

Don't expect to be completely blown away by FX - I mean it's very good no doubt, but it's not like the D7000 is a slouch in the IQ department.

The good FX bodies are so much nicer to shoot IMO, so that's something Also generally the noise is much nicer to deal with and the more shallow DOF through FX use means your photos will take on a "different" look instantly.

Don't be alarmed when you shoot with the D700, though - I think the shutter/mirror slap is loud as hell...just warning you so you don't jump the first time





Nov 04, 2013 at 09:20 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D700 or D600?


I was facing the same decision several months ago.I too had the D7000. I chose the D600 and I am very pleased with my choice. I bought a refurbished one so that I wouldn't have to deal with the oil issue. I now have taken 7000 photos and just cleaned my sensor. It had very little dirt on it and no oil. It is by far the best camera I have ever used. The 24MP sensor is only second to the D800 and at that by only one point. The dynamic range is amazing. The D700 is a great camera but a little long in the tooth and can only be purchased used. Good luck with your decision.

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Nov 04, 2013 at 09:24 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D700 or D600?


You have a D7000 now so the controls will be about the same on a D600
I came along the lines of D200,D300,D700
I went to a D600 next and never liked the setup and controls so I sold it
You may experience the same

Reagan



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:25 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · D700 or D600?


And FX is all of a sudden going to make you a better photographer....how??


Nov 04, 2013 at 09:27 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · D700 or D600?


NathanHamler wrote:
And FX is all of a sudden going to make you a better photographer....how??


Answer - the view finder helps me see better



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · D700 or D600?


700 is a fantastic all around camera, you can't go wrong..but after shooting it for the past few years I recently sold mine and bought a D610, glad I did, just better overall except for the AF system which I haven't had the chance to shoot action with yet, but I know it will be just fine. I think people underestimate this for sports..hell, my first dslr was a D90 and I got hundreds of fantastic national motocross action shots with it..there's no way the D90 AF is anywhere near as good as the D610


Nov 04, 2013 at 09:29 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · D700 or D600?


tvman11 wrote:
How would set myself up for disappointment?

DX to FX is a big jump especially in ISO capabilities. Ok, the D600 may be a little slow, but what about the D700. I know with the MB-D10, the D700 can shoot up to 8 fps.

Any more thoughts?


I shoot a half dozen weddings every year, along with some commercial work and location portraits. In the past I have borrowed a friend's D800, and I let him borrow my extensive monolight system. I have shot a couple wedding with the d800 and one portrait shoot. There really wasn't much difference at all between the results from that and my D7100. I gained about 1 & half stops of ISO, maybe. It just wasn't worth the twice the cost. NOT ONE of my customers could tell the difference between photos made with a DX camera vs. the D800. Not one! For some kinds of shooting there is a small advantage for FX, and for other types there is a small advantage for DX. I don't consider one to be an upgrade over the other over all. There is a lot of hype about FX on the internet message boards though. I've been taking photos for over two decades now, and all in all a change in cameras has given me the least noticeable difference in my images. Tripods and lenses have typically given me the most.



Kent in SD



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:35 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D700 or D600?


I moved from the D7000 to the D600 and liked it a lot. That extra stop of noise is really very nice. As far as low-light ability, it's like moving all of your lenses from F/4 to F/2.8. I also liked the slightly shallower depth of field (from the ability to get closer and still have the full subject in the frame).

The D600 also has a better buffer and slightly better AF (same module, but the center focus point goes down to F/8 rather than F/5.6). Other than those things, the D600 is basically the same as the D7000.

I was disappointed that the viewfinder wasn't significantly better, and doesn't have levels for both axis (unlike the D800).



Nov 04, 2013 at 09:39 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D700 or D600?


I forgot to mention that it is great to have the true focal lengths of my lenses back. 24 mm is 24 mm once again with the FX sensor!


Nov 04, 2013 at 09:59 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D700 or D600?


Oh yeah the D600 can't focus fast enough to shoot sports. Especially when you cripple it even more by using an old out dated slow focusing 80-200 F2.8 D push pull lens. See the following photo taken with the D600.






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Nov 04, 2013 at 10:15 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D700 or D600?


Ok... I've heard a lot of talk about the D600/D610. Let's hear from the D700 folks. How do the cameras compare? Putting aside the difference in megapixels, what makes the d700 different from the D600/D610?


Nov 04, 2013 at 10:23 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D700 or D600?


I have two 700's that someone recently asked me (actually today) if I would part with and to give him "a good price."

Told him the only way I would part with them was for $3,500.00 each. So that tells you what I think of the 700.

Can't comment on the 600/610 - but I love my 700's.



Nov 04, 2013 at 10:26 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D700 or D600?


D600 AF is largely anemic in comparison to the beast module the D700 has.

The D600 is alright, but the D700 is one of the best DSLRS in recent memory.



Nov 04, 2013 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · D700 or D600?


I shoot predominantly sports and have shot dozens of thousands of sports images with the D700 and now the D600... In both cases as a 2nd body or backup to the D3 and D3S.

The D600 is the better camera image wise there is absolutely no question about it. Low light, good light... Detail, sharpness, color rendition, high ISO saturation and detail... It's just better in every way.

However... There's still surprisingly a case to be made for the D700 between the two. If you value a more rugged, substantial build, if you need the more fps available in the grip, especially the ability to use the batteries from the D3 or D2 bodies, if you like using the 10pin synch cable to fire the body remotely, or if you just plain love CF cards as I do. The autofocus system isn't as dramatically different between the two bodies as some here like to make it seem. My keeper rate is very similar for hockey or volleyball or anything else. There is for some an argument that D700 controls are more familiar to traditional Nikon shooters, but thevtruth is if you have an open mind for learning new handling, everything you can do outside the menus with the D700, you can do with the D600, and more in fact. Try changing your autofocus parameters around with the D700 the way you can on the D600 without menu diving.

Speaking of menus, the D600's have more and updated options throughout.

Personally, I think the D600 is easily the superior body in almost all ways, but I do miss the remote firing capability (I can't set it up in my net cam box like my D700 could), and I do prefer the more rugged feel and CF cards and EN-EL3A batteries. I made money off my D700's no question. But at the end of the day I parted with it and now have a D600.

Ask yourself what is most important to you, and it should be fairly easy to pick the one that meets your needs best. Good luck!



Nov 04, 2013 at 11:16 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · D700 or D600?


I should also add that 24MP raw files are way more processor hungry and potentially more painful in post than 12MP raws... That should be a consideration...


Nov 04, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · D700 or D600?


for me photography boils down to image quality first and foremost, it's why I enjoy it...at the end of the day the 600 beats the 700..all the other things are ancillary, and I don't think those differences are significant in favor of one or the other


Nov 04, 2013 at 11:33 PM
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