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Lars Johnsson wrote:
How many Sigma lenses have you seen that cost more than "the same Canon lens"


That's actually hard to answer- since comparing things as 'the same' is a pretty bad idea when focal lengths and apertures do match. But a quick example? Sigma's 50/1.4 is ~US$100 more than the 50/1.4 USM. Better in almost every way while lacking a little bit in LoCA control and a ton in focus consistency. And I really wanted that Sigma.

In the case of the S35/1.4A, well, that's probably the very best example one could pick- far more people are reporting success with it than seemed to find the S50/1.4 serviceable, and it's price does really make sense. It's optically superior to the 35L, as rightly a new design should be, though the backgrounds are a tad questionable in comparison; still, it's unparalleled at 35mm F/1.4 acuity. If only there was a method for Canon users to ensure that they could get a copy that's going to actually focus on their body/bodies. It's price is great, considering the solid, 'workhorse' build and world beating optics while selling for around 50% more than Canon's 'low-end' 35/2 IS.



Oct 15, 2013 at 07:13 AM
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Hope it's IQ is fantastic, not so sure of the weight tho, seems like a heavy beast...


Oct 15, 2013 at 07:19 AM
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will this lens be weather sealed?


Oct 15, 2013 at 07:40 AM
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AFIK the art series isnt, the sport series is.


Oct 15, 2013 at 07:49 AM
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My OEM Canon lenses perform VERY consistently. The level of PRECISION with them is impressive. Once I use the in-body micro-adjust, they are both PRECISE and ACCURATE, at all focal lengths and distances.

My experience with Sigma lenses has been, for the most part, not nearly as great. Not only have they been inaccurate right out of the gate, (which an in-body micro-adjust would fix) but they weren't precise either. No repeatability in the error of the AF. The USB Dock is a great idea in theory, but in practice even it couldn't properly account for the problems with my
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My own experience is somewhat different. On 1D body, all lenses are really great. Canons and Sigmas (I had old 24-70/2.8 EX DG Macro, and still have 24/1.8 EX DG). On lower Canon bodies (have 40D and 400D), the accuracy goes down with both brands, but there is very little difference in real world accuracy for me between Canon and Sigmas on these bodies.

I haven't tried my digital Sigmas on 1D...



Oct 15, 2013 at 08:31 AM
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Light_pilgrim wrote:
will this lens be weather sealed?


Oh... there's the reason not to buy art lenses for me. Shame



Oct 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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Why? Lenses from Canon's very own L series have dubious sealing.


Oct 15, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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Paul Mo wrote:
Why? Lenses from Canon's very own L series have dubious sealing.

It's better than no sealing



Oct 15, 2013 at 01:36 PM
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MintMar wrote:
My own experience is somewhat different. On 1D body, all lenses are really great. Canons and Sigmas (I had old 24-70/2.8 EX DG Macro, and still have 24/1.8 EX DG). On lower Canon bodies (have 40D and 400D), the accuracy goes down with both brands, but there is very little difference in real world accuracy for me between Canon and Sigmas on these bodies.

I haven't tried my digital Sigmas on 1D...


My experience is based on using them with a 1D Mark IV, 5D Mark III and 1D Mark III. AF consistency of the Canon lenses, for me, has just been leaps and bounds ahead of the Sigmas. I hope I'm just an outlier, and it's great to see competing products driving the market. They just aren't for me.

That Sigma 35mm was sharp as hell...somewhere! I'd rather have a lens that's 90% as sharp and reliably focuses where I ask it.



Oct 15, 2013 at 01:45 PM
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PhilDrinkwater wrote:
It's better than no sealing


Only when you dont fall under impression that it actually is sealed just to end with suprise "Yay, it really doesnt work much, my lens is toast..".



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PhilDrinkwater wrote:
It's better than no sealing



Granted. Though I'm certainly no fan of the looseness of Canon's L designation. I think it should stand for more than it does - tightened up, whatever.



Oct 15, 2013 at 02:02 PM
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PhilDrinkwater wrote:
It's better than no sealing


Not when you have to pay 2 or 3 times as much to get the dubious sealing



Oct 15, 2013 at 03:42 PM
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True.


Oct 15, 2013 at 03:52 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
Not when you have to pay 2 or 3 times as much to get the dubious sealing


Except that the Canon 24-105 is likely still going to be cheaper than this lens given that it sells as a kit and that keeps the price low on the Canon version.



Oct 15, 2013 at 04:18 PM
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Lars Johnsson wrote:
Not when you have to pay 2 or 3 times as much to get the dubious sealing


Yeah, you really have to evaluate this on a lens-by-lens basis. In the case of the 24-105L, Canon's version is very good for what it is- even if the Sigma were sharper, which I fully expect it to be, the perceived downsides,even before anyone has yet held one attached to a Canon body, are outweighing the upsides.

I mean, seriously, I couldn't imagine many people actually being interested in this lens if it's a penny more than $US700. It's not light, it's not weather sealed, it has dubious Sigma AF, it's not fast enough to replace a single prime, and it will probably have Sigma's onion-bokeh on top of it all; I rather like the 24-105L's bokeh, compared to say the mess that the 24-70/2.8 VC puts out.



Oct 15, 2013 at 04:42 PM
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johnctharp wrote:
Yeah, you really have to evaluate this on a lens-by-lens basis. In the case of the 24-105L, Canon's version is very good for what it is- even if the Sigma were sharper, which I fully expect it to be, the perceived downsides,even before anyone has yet held one attached to a Canon body, are outweighing the upsides.

I mean, seriously, I couldn't imagine many people actually being interested in this lens if it's a penny more than $US700. It's not light, it's not weather sealed, it has dubious Sigma AF, it's not fast enough to replace a single prime, and it
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You already know the Sigma has dubious AF and bad onion bokeh
If there is the same difference as with the Sigma 35/1,4 and 35L it will be fantastic.................



Oct 15, 2013 at 05:06 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Except that the Canon 24-105 is likely still going to be cheaper than this lens given that it sells as a kit and that keeps the price low on the Canon version.


No way

B&H sell the Canon for $ 1149. How much do you Think the Sigma will cost



Oct 15, 2013 at 05:11 PM
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Paul Mo wrote:
Why? Lenses from Canon's very own L series have dubious sealing.


As with everything in life, things are relative:-)
I can perfectly accept the fast that 35 f/1.4 is not really weather sealed. In most cases I will be using it in controlled environment...very unlikely in the heavy rain. This lens serves a different purpose for me personally.

I use my 24-105 in very tough conditions. I have been to so many places with this lens...dust, sand and recently a lot and a lot of water when photographing waterfalls. One day I was really afraid that something is going to happen to my 5D MKIII and the lens....but it was OK.

So I can imagine that a lot of folks are using 24-105 as a travel lens, landscape lens...in all conditions. Weather sealing might be important.



Oct 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM
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Erik_J wrote:
No way

B&H sell the Canon for $ 1149. How much do you Think the Sigma will cost


If it lists for $1000, that is still 2-300 more than almost anyone can get the Canon version.



Oct 15, 2013 at 05:50 PM
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jctriguy wrote:
If it lists for $1000, that is still 2-300 more than almost anyone can get the Canon version.


Why would it list for $ 1000?
And where do I buy a new Canon for $ 700?
The Sigma 18-35 cost $ 799. And thats a f/1,8 lens



Oct 15, 2013 at 05:59 PM
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