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p.7 #1 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Sorry, editing while you reply.
I did explained why some of the product life cycle are getting shorter in my above post.



Oct 12, 2013 at 02:55 AM
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p.7 #2 · Nikon D610 officially announced


True, life cycles are indeed getting shorter especially with consumer models, however, they come with improved or new features... That's not the case with the D610, no improvement at all.


Oct 12, 2013 at 03:04 AM
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I do agree with you and others who said that there is no improvement at all or with minimum improvement on the D610.
The reason I think that Nikon came out with the D610 is just to re-brand itself to shake off from the bad image that those rumor spreaders have caused.
Not that there wasn't an issue, but an issue that can easily be fixed by the users if they know how to clean their sensors. And I am very sure the problem will go away after a couple of cleaning.
To me the D600 is a very capable camera for those who do not need the high MPixels as on the D800 and for the price that is selling at the moment is just a no brainer, and that is why we got it as a gift for our niece who will not need the high MPixels all the time.

Added: I am going to put it in writing that those DSLR photographers who does not know how to clean their sensors are all novice no matter how professional their photos look.
It is just like a race car driver who does not know how to change their oil or tune their engine.
Can we call them a pro driver even if they can afford the best technicians and specialist to do it? Must be a joke!



Oct 12, 2013 at 03:58 AM
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p.7 #4 · Nikon D610 officially announced


While I used to own a D600 and know how to clean the sensor, I don't like undermining others just because they don't want to clean their sensors every two weeks and spend $30 on swabs every time.

The D600 is a great camera and I mentioned earlier that it's the best bargain in photography especially at its depreciated price now (if you happened to have read that), I am just saying that introducing the D610 to address the oil issue is a stupid and arrogant marketing decision unless accompanied by recalling D600's and replacing them with D610's.




Oct 12, 2013 at 04:44 AM
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p.7 #5 · Nikon D610 officially announced


hans98ko wrote:
Added: I am going to put it in writing that those DSLR photographers who does not know how to clean their sensors are all novice no matter how professional their photos look.
It is just like a race car driver who does not know how to change their oil or tune their engine.
Can we call them a pro driver even if they can afford the best technicians and specialist to do it? Must be a joke!


So perhaps a race car driver would not mind changing the oil on the sensor?

However, most users in the 21st century don't want high maintenance products.

EBH



Oct 12, 2013 at 04:54 AM
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p.7 #6 · Nikon D610 officially announced


@EB-1
But the race car drivers might be the best people to clean the oil off the sensor because they kept their cars sparkling clean.

@hijazist
Actually, there is no need to buy costly specialized cleaning products from people like Eclipse, SensorClear or VisibleDust to get the job done, use what the industry uses and you will spend very little and last you a long time. I can't post it here because of work related, but you can find it on the internet very easily.
The solution will not cost you more than $5 for 500ml and 1,000 swabs for less than $20 which you can always share with other photographers. The swabs are not meant for any particular sensor size so you can use it on any sensors.
Only once in a blue moon that you will need a fixed size swab to do the job.



Oct 12, 2013 at 05:17 AM
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hans98ko wrote:
Added: I am going to put it in writing that those DSLR photographers who does not know how to clean their sensors are all novice no matter how professional their photos look.

It is just like a race car driver who does not know how to change their oil or tune their engine.



Those comments are stupendously ignorant.




Oct 12, 2013 at 11:43 AM
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hans98ko wrote:
Added: I am going to put it in writing that those DSLR photographers who does not know how to clean their sensors are all novice no matter how professional their photos look.


This is an idiotic statement.

Well...I guess a "pro" like yourself is not aware the Henri Cartier-Bresson didn't develop his own film or make his own prints........

Really you should know this before you call yourself a pro......



Oct 12, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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p.7 #9 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Yap! I would have expected none other than novices that will call my comments stupendously ignorant or idiotic statements.
Do I care? Nope! Because it will neither affect my work, improve my skill or my pay.
Do I know who is Henri Cartier-Bresson? Nope! Never ever heard of him till today, just like you will never know who is Ning Lau Beh Wor is a better photographer.
Do anyone really cares? I really don't think so because there are so many better photographers in the world that many people will never get to know.
Just like over here on this forum we have a number of really good photographers who share their work and knowledge that will never be known outside of this circle. Photographers and technical specialists that I respect even though we never did agree with each other at time.
Somehow many of the technical specialists came from the Canon Forum. I wonder why?

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Oct 12, 2013 at 05:06 PM
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p.7 #10 · Nikon D610 officially announced


^ Kindly see this from YOUR OWN PROFILE

And still trying to gain more
knowledge while serving forums like
this one.


So, have we been 'served'



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p.7 #11 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Wow! I didn't notice my own spelling mistake or the use of the wrong word in my profile till now.
Yes Sir! You sure did served your part in knowledge and photographic skill.
A BIG Thank You!



Oct 12, 2013 at 05:50 PM
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p.7 #12 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Well, being the owner of a D800 and D600 knowing that Nikon's latest update for the the D600 has absolutely no reason for me to even want to upgrade I'm happy knowing my investment in the D600 was a sound one. Looks like I'll be happy with both of these cameras for the foreseeable future if that's the best Nikon can do in future upgrades.


Oct 12, 2013 at 06:14 PM
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That's nothing. My Uncle Bob bought a 2-month old D600 by working FT at a Western Union in Nigeria.



Oct 13, 2013 at 12:30 PM
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Oct 13, 2013 at 01:18 PM
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p.7 #15 · Nikon D610 officially announced


I borrowed a D600 from another club member, but didn't use it very much--all my pix looked like oil wells!


Oct 14, 2013 at 03:24 AM
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p.7 #16 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Contact Exxon, Mobil or Shell to help in the cleanup, they are the experts in cleaning up major oil spills.

Oh! By the way didn't you know that was the ND filter that Nikon build into the D600 to help you to safe a hundred dollars or so in purchasing one?

Added: Since on this topic of accessories, I would like to know why people are spending unnecessary dollars on purchasing an ExpoDisk to get the correct WB on their D800/E? I didn't check if the following will also work on the D600 when I have a chance to do it, but do help to confirm for other users if you can.
All one needs is to go to LV on the D800/E and activate the display to show the variation in exposure by toggling the OK button. It is best to activate custom function f10 to turn it ON, so as to simplify your operation without having to press the WB button while turning the wheels to change the setting.
Now, just look into the LCD and decide which color temperature suits your shooting condition, you can even zoom into a certain area to decide if it looks better for you.
I post this is because recently one of the photographer who shoots with us bought a over a hundred dollars ExpoDisk for his D800E and I just couldn't understand why he is throwing money away and add the need to carry additional items in his bag?

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Oct 14, 2013 at 03:31 AM
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Nice to hear an improved camera is out, but I do feel bad for people with unresolved D600 issues.

As for slagging off Nikon in general, they do deserve it, but what they did pales in comparison to what others such as Hasselblad and Leica (M8 anyone?) have done in the past, especially Hasselblad (locking their own customers from new lenses with firmware to force $3K body upgrades, selling a $6K zoom which falls apart, calling cameras full frame when they are clearly not, etc) . Canon have had their fair share of issues too. My Leaf digital back dealer tried to defend the fact that there were so many issues with this $30K back saying that they are still ironing out the bugs and what can you expect with this new design. New? They keep telling us they've been making these backs for 20 years. And haven't they heard of consumer protection laws, lemon laws, merchantable quality, etc?

And so it goes. Dirt on a sensor for such a cheap camera is not the worst problem out there.

And complaining about the modest upgrade? You should see the pathetic incremental model line up from Mamiya.



Oct 14, 2013 at 03:59 AM
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p.7 #18 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Pro photographer. Hmmm.

Expodisk works very well and is fast. It suits many people and if they want to carry it around because they might be colour blind then good luck to them. In trick lighting it can be a great way to get a compromise between all parts of a scene.

I am looking forward to picking up a used D600 as my first "full frame camera".



Oct 14, 2013 at 09:38 AM
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p.7 #19 · Nikon D610 officially announced


hans98ko wrote:
Yap! I would have expected none other than novices that will call my comments stupendously ignorant or idiotic statements.
Do I care? Nope! Because it will neither affect my work, improve my skill or my pay.
Do I know who is Henri Cartier-Bresson? Nope! Never ever heard of him till today, just like you will never know who is Ning Lau Beh Wor is a better photographer.
Do anyone really cares? I really don't think so because there are so many better photographers in the world that many people will never get to know.
Just like over here on this forum we have
...Show more


I guess you can't fix stupid. When someone (this means you) chooses to be ignorant...that's just sad.......



Oct 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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p.7 #20 · Nikon D610 officially announced


Whats the chances that they will "upgrade" problamatic D600 users to the D610?
Mine seems to be clean so far, but time will tell..



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