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p.1 #1 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Photozone just posted reviews on the Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS and Sigma 35mm f/1.4 HSM DG Art lenses
Photozone just posted reviews on the Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS and Sigma 35mm f/1.4 HSM DG Art lenses.

Some excerpts from the reviews:

Canon 35mm f/2 IS: Read review
"Once more Canon delivered a a high performance lens with only a few weaknesses. The center performance is very good at max. aperture and excellent to downright superb at medium aperture settings."
B&H Photo | Adorama ($549)

Sigma 35mm f/1.4 HSM DG Art: Read review
"The lens delivers impressive resolution in our lab test. In the image center, the results are nothing short of outstanding even at f/1.4 the largest aperture. It is safe to state that the lens easily outperforms the 20 megapixel sensor of the camera used for testing."
B&H Photo | Adorama ($899)



Oct 02, 2013 at 03:00 AM
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p.1 #2 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Yep, I've seen Photozone has published their test of the Canon 35/2 IS. At last ! Man, how many times I had checked the website unfortunately. Same silence from SLRGear, only Lenstip did the review (of both lenses). Finally I resigned last week to "trust" a single source of review and I bought it. No regret so far to say the least !


Oct 02, 2013 at 03:47 AM
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p.1 #3 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


I am very happy with Canon 35 f/2 IS.

Will never buy another Sigma lens for the rest of my life.



Oct 02, 2013 at 10:06 AM
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p.1 #4 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Larate wrote:
... Same silence from SLRGear, ...


SLR gear has just recently posted a review of this lens (Canon 35mm f/2 IS) as well. Just an FYI.



Oct 02, 2013 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #5 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


That's quite an outstanding endorsement for the Siggy. Seems to follow on other tests I've read on this lens. Would be great to see more like this from Sigma...Canon needs to get a kick given their new pricing strategies. Come on Sigma, deliver more goods....


Oct 02, 2013 at 11:33 AM
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chez wrote:
That's quite an outstanding endorsement for the Siggy. Seems to follow on other tests I've read on this lens. Would be great to see more like this from Sigma...Canon needs to get a kick given their new pricing strategies. Come on Sigma, deliver more goods....


Only if they improve their focus consistency. Many people seem to find them excellent, while a vocal minority finds them (including this lens, which has received so much hype and scrutiny) incapable of reliable focus that can actually make use of the incredible wide-open center sharpness.

As much as I'd like to give Sigma my business, the 35/IS is still more appealing over all- it's plenty sharp across the frame wide open, easily competitive with the Sigma beyond the center, while matching in sharpness by F/4, providing IS (which while being no substitute for faster shutter speeds does have it's uses), and providing better bokeh, all in a smaller, lighter, cheaper package.

Granted, if the Sigma was reported to have 35L-like focus accuracy, consistency, and speed, there'd really be very little argument- but there's no point in getting fast glass with questionable focus. I have no problem grabbing the 35/IS from an online vendor, but I wouldn't pick up the Siggy without being able to really test it first.



Oct 02, 2013 at 02:05 PM
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johnctharp wrote:
...a vocal minority finds them (including this lens, which has received so much hype and scrutiny) incapable of reliable focus that can actually make use of the incredible wide-open center sharpness.


You know, with poor observation of what is going on in the viewfinder, that vocal minority will always moan about their AF systems not perfecting shots at f1.4.



Oct 02, 2013 at 02:13 PM
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Paul Mo wrote:
You know, with poor observation of what is going on in the viewfinder, that vocal minority will always moan about their AF systems not perfecting shots at f1.4.


Hell, I'm not saying that they're right, just that they're loud .

I've read through a great number of threads and reviews concerning the lens, and while some are obviously out-speaking their experience, some are genuinely finding that these Sigmas many times just don't focus right, for whatever reason.

Hell, I find my 50/1.4 USM 'accurate' at F/1.4, while reading the reviews of the Sigma 50/1.4 on B&H is enough to turn anyone away- literally every other reviewer states that it just cannot focus reliably, and many state that they'd rather have the optically and mechanically inferior Canon instead. You don't see that as much with the new SIgmas, but it's still there.

For me, a good 35mm lens would essentially become my new 'walk-around'; it'd replace the 40/2.8 where discretion is not a priority, and it'd replace the 50/1.4 USM for tight indoor stuff where I've found myself backing up against walls and so forth.

And if the Canon lacked IS, this would be harder to evaluate- IS adds a whole new dimension, where a stabilized viewfinder and the forgiveness of some camera shake/movement means that one can get to the shutter button that much quicker, turning the lens into a powerful 'snap-shooter'. It's also immeasurably helpful for video, which most agree is the reason Canon is putting it on their refreshes. But if the new 35/2 didn't have IS, it'd likely be far cheaper, and it's optical quality and new build are plenty enough to warrant it's purchase for those that don't have the need or budget for the faster glass.

But I still want to try the Sigma 35/1.4A- or any Sigma. I'm just skeptical .



Oct 02, 2013 at 02:28 PM
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I believe Sigma has some reliability issues around its focus...but if you get a good one, it is superb, at least my 50 is. If you get a lemon, send it back. I think their price coupled with the image quality they are delivering lately is worth the effort to evaluate Sigma.

Of course everyone has their own opinions on this. But then...is every Canon lens dead sharp and excellent at focus out of the gate?



Oct 02, 2013 at 02:41 PM
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p.1 #10 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Great reviews!

I still more inclined toward the Canon for my use.

They both look to be nearly a tie optically -- Canon stronger in some areas, Sigma in others. Both outstanding.

As I see it, the Sigma offers an outstanding f/1.4 feature vs. Canon's IS -- I find the IS more valuable.

Sigma is larger. I prefer the size and weight of the Canon.

As John has said, I'm still leery of Sigma's AF. My last independent purchase -- Tamron's highly regarded 17-50 non-VC -- turned me off again to non-OEM lenses for professional work. Sigma does seem very high quality, but it still can't be sent to CPS if I have body/lens issues.

Waiting for Canon's price to come down a little lower, but even now it is the better price point.

If I had a Nikon D800E, there would be no question I would own the Sigma.



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p.1 #11 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Own a S35 and sold 35L
Glad to see this result, which are predictable. No focus issue with S35 on my camera. According to the Photozone's review, 35IS is still one level behind S35 from almost every aspect.
See that MTF that F/1.4 from S35 is almost the same with F/2.0 from 35IS



Oct 02, 2013 at 03:12 PM
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norbelthomas wrote:
Own a S35 and sold 35L
Glad to see this result, which are predictable. No focus issue with S35 on my camera. According to the Photozone's review, 35IS is still one level behind S35 from almost every aspect.
See that MTF that F/1.4 from S35 is almost the same with F/2.0 from 35IS


That's actually high praise for the cheaper Canon that has an IS group to contend with too- and it's nice to see that you're finding the Sigma's AF acceptable for your work!



Oct 02, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #13 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Now that the Canon price has dropped to $549 or $599, there is more of an argument to be made for the Canon IS lens. I just got the lens recently, and am very pleased so far. The light weight is a big plus!


Oct 02, 2013 at 03:45 PM
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Paul Mo wrote:
You know, with poor observation of what is going on in the viewfinder, that vocal minority will always moan about their AF systems not perfecting shots at f1.4.


Just test them side-by-side, fire off 20 shots with center AF point and count how many shots are in focus. No rocket science. No composition skills required.

I have no AF problems with my Canon 50 f1/.4, but have issues with Sigma lenses at f/1.4.



Oct 02, 2013 at 04:20 PM
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johnctharp wrote:
Only if they improve their focus consistency. Many people seem to find them excellent, while a vocal minority finds them (including this lens, which has received so much hype and scrutiny) incapable of reliable focus that can actually make use of the incredible wide-open center sharpness.


I believe it's the opposite: the number of folks who have no issues with Sigma AF is in the minority.

From this review of their recent 18-35 f/1.8 lens:

"We shot with a range of Canon SLRs, from the entry-level EOS 100D to the top-of-the-line EOS 7D, and all had problems focusing absolutely correctly all the time. This was usually only obvious when shooting at apertures larger than F2.8...

With a Sigma USB Dock to hand, we set about determining and programming in a full set of autofocus microadjust parameters for all of Sigma's specified focal lengths and focus distances (18, 24, 28 and 35mm; infinity, 0.5m, 0.35m and 0.28m). This took several hours to set up, even with specialised focusing targets to hand... Unfortunately though, the vast majority of subjects end up somewhere in between, and we found that the lens still had some problems with focus accuracy even when fully programmed as above.

And while we think that they'll be delighted with the image quality the lens delivers when properly focused, they won't generally find this kind of hit-and-miss focusing at F1.8 very acceptable; the lens just doesn't reliably deliver usable images every time."



Oct 02, 2013 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #16 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


Have had too many issues with non-OEM glass over the last 3 decades, the older Tamrons where the only lenses I liked. The faster Sigma lens really looks/sounds great, but the lighter/slower Canon gets my nod. As has been said, at around $550-600 the IS speaks volumes for my use...the 24 and 35 are on my to buy list; the older 28 f1.8 will do for now...

'Canon, we need a new 50 f1.4 and maybe an 85 f1.8 with IS'



Oct 02, 2013 at 04:46 PM
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I have the Sigma 35... the ART series is truly an amazing line of lens. No focus issues. THIS is the lens that has got me loving Sigma for life. Cannot wait until the upcoming 135mm ART series prime. F1.8 and OS.

The 35 at F1.4 is so good and sharp! To me, F1.4 > IS at F2.

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Oct 02, 2013 at 05:05 PM
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p.1 #18 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


StillFingerz wrote:
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'Canon, we need a new 50 f1.4 and maybe an 85 f1.8 with IS'



An 85 with IS would be INCREDIBLE.



Oct 02, 2013 at 05:10 PM
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p.1 #19 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


I've had the 35 2.0 IS USM for nearly a month and both IQ and IS are truly excellent. The best AF on a wide or normal prime I've ever used. I can't squeeze out 4 extra stops from IS but 3 stops is consistent. I haven't removed it from my 5D2 yet. Might just glue it on...


Oct 02, 2013 at 05:19 PM
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p.1 #20 · Two fast 35mm lenses reviewed at Photozone


both look to perform very well, the canon a tiny bit better stopped down a few stops, the sigma even a bit more so wide open and still a tiny bit to about 2.5 stops down. sigma seems to have LoCA near wide open so there is still a chance that 35 1.4 II from Canon could outdo it, whether it will arrive or will outdo it who knows

and of course nothing about AF here, some say the new sigma art do better than before



Oct 02, 2013 at 06:51 PM
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