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Phillip Reeve
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


I got the lens today and took it for a walk so i would like to share my initial impressions

first some examples optimized for displaying on the net:











EDIT
My copy is decentered so the tests below don't always show what a good copy would look like. I think especially the results at longer focal lenght would be better with a not decentered lens.


the following imaes are linked to full resolution images on flickr. More images can be found in this set: Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS - a set on Flickr

it is quite flare resistant:

16mm f/8 Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS by reevedata, on Flickr

bokeh is nice:

16mm f/4 Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS by reevedata, on Flickr

corner sharpness @16mm is okay but not that great either

16mm f/5.6 Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS by reevedata, on Flickr

corners are quite good @24mm

24mm f/5.6 Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS by reevedata, on Flickr

a lillte bit worse corners @35mm

34mm f/5.6 Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS by reevedata, on Flickr

there is more to come, but if you want to know anything special, just ask.

cheers,
Phillip

Edited on Oct 02, 2013 at 06:49 PM · View previous versions



Sep 17, 2013 at 06:53 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thanks. eager to hear your first impressions


Sep 17, 2013 at 07:10 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Looks really good.


Sep 17, 2013 at 07:18 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


If you have any experience with the 10-18, I'd be interested to hear how they compare. Shots here look nice so far!


Sep 17, 2013 at 07:22 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Jman13 wrote:
Looks really good.


hmm, really? maybe it's just that I'm not used to zooms covering a large range, but those edges look quite weak to me, especially at wider angles. it looks very nice in the central 2/3 though.

phillip, do corners look better at 16-24mm stopped down further?




Sep 17, 2013 at 07:28 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


sebboh wrote:
hmm, really? maybe it's just that I'm not used to zooms covering a large range, but those edges look quite weak to me, especially at wider angles. it looks very nice in the central 2/3 though.

phillip, do corners look better at 16-24mm stopped down further?



I hadn't clicked on the full size samples - I was going by rendering. Yeah, looking up close, it's got a lot of CA and quite a bit of softness at the edges. The Fuji XC 16-50 is actually a little sharper than this with better CA control (though a full stop slower and a bit shorter).



Sep 17, 2013 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


sebboh wrote:
hmm, really? maybe it's just that I'm not used to zooms covering a large range, but those edges look quite weak to me, especially at wider angles. it looks very nice in the central 2/3 though.

phillip, do corners look better at 16-24mm stopped down further?

i don't think so.
I have to confess that i expected quite a bit more for 800 bucks, have a look at these 100% crops:
(i used a tripod and 2 sec selftimer, but only focused once and wasn#t to careful setting the chart up but i think a trend can be clearly seen

center:

ZAMinolta3570_F8_70mm by reevedata, on Flickr

midframe:
ZAMinolta3570_F8_70mm_Midframe by reevedata, on Flickr

corner:

ZAMinolta3570_F8_70mm by reevedata, on Flickr

and now the mighty Sigma 60/2.8

ZASigma60mm by reevedata, on Flickr


ZASigma60mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr


ZASigma60mmCorner by reevedata, on Flickr


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Sep 17, 2013 at 07:42 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thanks for the shots and the review. Wide angle shots posted in your flickr acct looked better then the ones above. 70mm bokeh looks very good but softness is not good...

Yesterday, I checked one raw image at 16mm w/ nex 7 and the corners looked a little soft or also some vignetting correction might be happening. Rawtherapee shows 4015x6020 pixels compared to 4000x6000 nex 7 image size so there is a little cutting going on but much less then the Pana 12-35mm I have. 12-35mm has ~6% distortion correction. That is why I am looking for Zeiss option. I don't know how the new Oly will be also, maybe more optically corrected with its bigger size. Both Sony and Pana show purple fringing.

For interested, 16mm & 70mm raw/jpg samples w/ nex 7 at:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3547108

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Sep 17, 2013 at 07:44 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thank you, Phillip.

These findings remind me very much of the A mount version of the lens I tried. Great center sharpness, nice & Zeissy look for strong central subjects, but the corners and edges were lacking.

Looking forward to more samples.



Sep 17, 2013 at 07:55 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Phillip,
Thanks for starting this thread. Like a lot of people here, I'm considering this lens and am much more interested in your thoughts than those of the "professional" testers.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


hmmmm


Sep 17, 2013 at 08:00 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Yep I thought that its a bit "soft" on long end. It really is. Tho given reach its no wonder.. Its close to impossible to make high reach zoom without compromising anything. For today, its decent.

Best "long" zoom I know of is 35-135 C/Y and then most likely K-M 28-135.. And thats about everything (well ok, 14-150 Leica for 4/3 .. probably one of best, just not FF soo..).



Sep 17, 2013 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thank you for this Phillip.

It doesn't look to good compared to the good old Minolta.
Could it be that the lens doesn't focus right?
Did you try manual focus as well on the testcard?



Sep 17, 2013 at 08:17 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Phillip Reeve wrote:
i don't think so.
I have to confess that i expected quite a bit more for 800 bucks, have a look at these 100% crops:
(i used a tripod and 2 sec selftimer, but only focused once and wasn#t to careful setting the chart up but i think a trend can be clearly seen


hmm, did you use AF?




Sep 17, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Phillip Reeve
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Please keep in mind that this is quick and dirty and nowhere near professional testing standards.
Nonetheless a pattern can be seen, i think.
The Zeiss was focused manually.


35mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr


35mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr


35mmCorner by reevedata, on Flickr





Sep 17, 2013 at 08:20 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS




19mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr


19mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr


19mmCorner by reevedata, on Flickr


19mmCornerCA by reevedata, on Flickr



Sep 17, 2013 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thanks much!
so many choices



Sep 17, 2013 at 09:16 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Got to look at the full size samples on Flicker. Is it too soon to ?


Sep 17, 2013 at 09:38 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


hmmmm

+1



Sep 17, 2013 at 09:56 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


All NEX users should thank you for buying and testing one..


Sep 17, 2013 at 10:25 PM
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