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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Thinking of selling off my SLRs for right now, and switching to one of these (and re-buying a long lens combo in the spring for some wildlife)

x100:
pro: half the price (or less) of x100s even used
pro: seems to have good (?) RAW support in Lightroom
pro: AF etc was fixed in firmware since last time I used it
con: AF still not as good as x100s, DSLR
con: battery life is crap if you don't pay attention to it
neutral: won't be doing MF so don't care about that

x100s:
con: expensive / rare-ish
con?: X-Trans is love or hate it seems
con: RAW seems to be really hit or miss with conversion
pro: more megapixels
pro: better low light / high ISO performance

5D2 + 35L:
pro: already have the 5D2
con: size/weight
con: this thing just keeps depreciating
con: 35L about the same cost as the x100s
pro: with ML firmware, I can do anything I want with this camera

Any thoughts? Just want an "all around" camera to have - I think photography wise things will be slow now until spring, so makes sense to sell off DSLRs and most glass instead of having it sit.




Sep 16, 2013 at 09:16 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Sell the 35L, buy x100s + Canon 35 f2 with a little investment. Then you have most of the best of both worlds.


Sep 17, 2013 at 01:45 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


I did a x100 and love it. I am a nikon guy so ymmv.


Sep 17, 2013 at 01:48 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


robsonj wrote:
Sell the 35L, buy x100s + Canon 35 f2 with a little investment. Then you have most of the best of both worlds.


I don't have the 35L or any 35mm prime for the Canon. I do have the 5D2.



Sep 17, 2013 at 02:15 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


What do you use your dslr's for? What is your preferred subject?

X100 indoors was a nightmare for me during parties due to massive flare from overhead lights...hood mitigated some of it.

Did they change anything to fix this on the s?



Sep 17, 2013 at 08:55 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Sold my 5D2 + Zeiss 35/2 due to it's size/weight. 't Was a good camera though. How much does the weight bother you? Who cares that it depreciates? You already paid for it and seem to like the camera.

I have the X100 and X-E1. Quite different sensors. Need RAW files to play with?

Idea 1: Keep the 5D2 because you have it and like it. Maybe look at the Sigma Art 35? Seems to be very good and you save some money.
Idea 2: Sell the 5D2 while you still get a reasonable price for it. Get the X100 just for fun. Then, get yourself a cheap-ish 1,5-1,6 crop: that will help for wildlife (or clarify your requirements for a wildlife camera, e.g. do you use a shelter and would a shorter focal length on full frame -your 5D2- do the trick?).

Personally, I never liked the Canon 18 MP sensor re my crop idea. My advise would be to keep the 5D2 or one of the Fuji's. Quite a few people would advise you to look into NEX though, and m4/3 with it's 2x crop and lightning AF will also help in wildlife photography.




Sep 17, 2013 at 09:16 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


I don't think the 5DII will depreciate much at this point.

While the X100 may cost the same as the 35L, this would imply that you are keeping the 5DII even if you buy the X100, which you don't sound like you are considering. Selling the 5DII would get you more money back.

I guess you need to decide if you:

a) need other focal lengths
b) want to carry around a 5DII+35L or X100/X100s until the spring



Sep 17, 2013 at 10:10 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


What about sell 5D2, chip in 35L equiv, buy RX1?

I suspect going from 21mp to 12mp (5D2 -> x100) would be quite a hit if you're used to having the pixels to work with. And keep in mind the AF difference (centerpoint) and overall responsiveness is dramatically different.



Sep 17, 2013 at 11:45 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


How's the 40stm lens?


Sep 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


The 40 pancake? 2.8? I'm not sure about the STM designation. I have he 40 2.8 pancake on a 5d2 and it's remarkable for the cost and size. Really very very good.

Makes the whole camera almost feel like a compact.

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


I have both the 5D2 and the X100S.

X 100S advantages: small, lightweight, excellent fill flash, discrete, good optical finder, nice direct aperture control.

Canon 5D2 + 35/1.4 advantages: Faster, better IQ, better ergonomically, great optical finder; for me , at least, much more intuitive controls - especially ISO control (I don't like the auto ISO much on the Fuji), great battery life, excellent shallow focus on the 1.4, great bokeh.

X100S cons: seems like a gadget, a little fiddly to use (changing ISO), less depth of field control, poor framing, utterly crap battery life.

Canon 5D2 cons: weight/ bulk, bulk/weight, bulk, bulk and weight. No easy fill flash.

Better than either, for me, is the Canon 5D2 + Voigtlander 40/2 with the Maxwell screen. Manual focus heaven. It's still too heavy and bulky, but the direct feel and control makes it better for most of what I do.



Sep 17, 2013 at 08:45 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Not to add to the confusion, but the new Canon 35/2 IS is an excellent lens that personally I'd consider, and Canon just dropped the price. The EF 35/1.4 L is an excellent lens but the new lens isn't far behind and has IS as well.


Sep 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


As you can see in the pic I linked. The 5d2 is thinner a tiny bit wider but taller. If you kept an evf on the rx1 the canon wouldn't be much bigger with the pancake.

But. The rx1 has more dr more magic lens dust and is a stop faster with better high ISO.

If the x100s is similar in dimensions. Op, try the pancake especially for walk around. I'll have to weigh them but I doubt it's far off.

They both fit in a crumpled 3mdh

Have you considered a supplemental premium compact with the 5d2, just to throw another log on the fire?



Sep 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Although I've owned the X100, X100s, and I currently use the RX1, it seems to me that buying something like the Canon 40/2.8 makes sense for your 5D2.


Sep 18, 2013 at 01:08 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


h00ligan wrote:
As you can see in the pic I linked. The 5d2 is thinner a tiny bit wider but taller. If you kept an evf on the rx1 the canon wouldn't be much bigger with the pancake.

But. The rx1 has more dr more magic lens dust and is a stop faster with better high ISO.

If the x100s is similar in dimensions. Op, try the pancake especially for walk around. I'll have to weigh them but I doubt it's far off.

They both fit in a crumpled 3mdh

Have you considered a supplemental premium compact with the 5d2, just to throw
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Although I agree that the 40/2.8 may be the way to go for the OP, to be fair, the 5D2+40/2.8 is thicker if you take off the hood from your RX1, and it is over double the weight. You should get rid of that RX1 hood and use a 49mm-->37mm step down filter as a hood, instead.



Sep 18, 2013 at 01:15 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


I was wondering if that could he done. Under that good is a uv filter. So that would stop the step down from working no?


Sep 18, 2013 at 03:06 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


h00ligan wrote:
I was wondering if that could he done. Under that good is a uv filter. So that would stop the step down from working no?


Works fine with UV underneath. In fact, you could probably even add another filter ring in there, if necessary.



Sep 18, 2013 at 03:40 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


The Canon 40 pancake is a really good lens, esp. considering it's price.
Had it on my 5D2 to make the whole package lighter, more compact. Even added a 24mm IS to it...
And still decided to sell it all / trade it in for a Fuji. Can't really explain why.

Try to figure out if the X-trans files bother you.
Or get the X100 (not S), maybe second hand for relatively little money, play with it trough the winter and then decide.
If you have -and want to spend- the money, the Sony RX1 is probably awesome (but then you probably won't have any change left for your wildlife setup )



Sep 18, 2013 at 12:34 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


If you decide to keep the 5D2, go for the Sigma 35/1.4 and never think about de 35L again.


Sep 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · x100 or x100s (or 5D2 + 35L)


Thanks Douglas


Sep 20, 2013 at 03:26 AM





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