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Archive 2013 · Moving from D700 to maybe D800? Pet photography and NYC Street Photography

  
 
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Moving from D700 to maybe D800? Pet photography and NYC Street Photography


eieio wrote:
on the other hand, all of these point to the fact that the 5DMarkIII excels in all of this over than that of the D800, sadly.

i have no idea why Nikon didn't put more effort into their D800 to make it at least as good as the 5DMarkIII. Canon had to come up MUCH FARTHER to go from the 5DMarkII to the 5DMarkIII and they did it. why didn't Nikon move further along their R&D curve going from the D700 to the D800?

maybe the best move might be to leave Nikon and go to Canon altogether. faster/better autofocusing, AND
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First of all, are you comparing specs of do you have "Hands On".
Canon is very prone to exagerating the specs.
In my book the D800 beats the 5D3 in everyway.
Except for Frames per Second it beats the D700 also.

That said, I suggest you try a Nikon V1 or V2.
They focus extremely fast and accurate.
They are light weight and easy to carry on walks.
Whenever we take our dog on hikes, I carry my V1 and the 10-30 lens.
This outfit will actually fit in my large pockets, otherwise it hangs on a B;ack Rapid Strap.
That way I do not have the D800e wacking me when the dog jerks me around.



Sep 14, 2013 at 09:10 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Moving from D700 to maybe D800? Pet photography and NYC Street Photography


Frogfish wrote:
It seems like you are looking for a one lens solution. Which IMHO is not the right choice if you are a) shooting pets for money and b) shooting street for pleasure. 18-200 on a DX camera certainly seems far too long for street where (on a Pentax K5, a DX camera) I was mainly using 30, 43 & 77 (nearest equiv. FX being very roughly 50 / 85 / 125).

For pets maybe the 18-105 or 18-140 would be good if you insist on a one lens solution (though as I haven't used either of those I can't comment so
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@Frogfish:

weight is a big issue for me at my age.

D700 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR "I" = 2.19 + 3.24 lbs = 5.43 lbs

D7100 + 18-200 f/3.5-5.6 VRII = 1.69 + 1.25 lbs = 2.94 lbs

2.94 / 5.43 = 54%

The D7100 + 18-200 combination is 54% of the weight of my current D700 + 70-200



Sep 15, 2013 at 09:06 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Moving from D700 to maybe D800? Pet photography and NYC Street Photography


eieio wrote@Frogfish:

weight is a big issue for me at my age.

D700 + 70-200 f/2.8 VR "I" = 2.19 + 3.24 lbs = 5.43 lbs

D7100 + 18-200 f/3.5-5.6 VRII = 1.69 + 1.25 lbs = 2.94 lbs

2.94 / 5.43 = 54%

The D7100 + 18-200 combination is 54% of the weight of my current D700 + 70-200


Yes but it's no saving at all if it doesn't achieve, performance-wise, what is required. I would seriously doubt the AF on the 18-200 (never mind the IQ) will come close to that of the 70-200 or what is required for catching dogs in motion, especially so in low light when you will be at f5.6 at longer focal lengths and struggling.

Maybe take your camera & lens along to a retailer to try alongside the 18-200 if you get the chance.





Sep 16, 2013 at 04:06 AM
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@eieio: IMO you may not be happy with IQ from the D7100+18-200 combo. Newer cameras with high density sensors ARE more difficult to get good results from as compared to the previous generation D300/D700/D3 which were far more forgiving of less-than-stellar glass and poor technique. The newer cameras/sensors really do demand better glass and good technique to get the most out of them.

If you like the idea of the D7100, I'd suggest pairing it with the 70-200/4 or even the new 80-400VR for longer range work.

Personally I prefer the D800 over the D7100, but then weight is not an issue for me.



Sep 16, 2013 at 08:57 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Moving from D700 to maybe D800? Pet photography and NYC Street Photography


You were ready to jump ship to Canon because of some perceived improvements, and insistent that only the best autofocus would possibly capture your dogs in motion, but then you want to buy a 10x consumer zoom?

You can't have everything. You can either have a competent camera/lens combo that will handle difficult situations, or you can have the lightest, most convenient setup. A consumer zoom like the 18-200mm will be light and easy to carry. It will not focus quickly, and you will find some limitations with the image quality. A higher quality zoom like the 70-200mm f/4 is going to be more restrictive in focal range, and heavier, but it will achieve a much higher level of performance.

Also - I think you would have gotten a much friendlier response if you had simply come in asking for advice rather than making broad statements alongside your questions. If you say, "hey guys I've been out of it for a while and here is what I need," it will net more quality answers than putting a bunch of people on the defensive by saying, "...here is what I need, and Nikon failed with their flagship camera release."



Sep 16, 2013 at 09:06 AM
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