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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Nice shot, but I disagree about the 300 as it's eminently handholdable for extended periods for bif shots and mk II is supposedly even better with better balance.



How can you disagree, when I said, ............too bloody heavy for me. ?

300 mk I - 5.6 lbs., 300 mk II - 5.2 lbs., 400 DO - 4.3 lbs.



Sep 11, 2013 at 04:31 AM
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Imagemaster wrote:
How can you disagree, when I said, ?

300 mk I - 5.6 lbs., 300 mk II - 5.2 lbs., 400 DO - 4.3 lbs.


Because I'm all that matters. Enough about me, what do you think of me



Sep 11, 2013 at 04:40 AM
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Imagemaster wrote:
No kidding? I guess you needed a at the end of my sentence.


Glad you clarified that. That statement deserves a .



Sep 11, 2013 at 07:54 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


Great shots everyone. Peter - you make the new lens sing, but I do wonder why you post these relatively dark images. Is it preference or replicating the scene?

Ron



Sep 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM
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Ron, primarily, it is the photographic authenticity.......if the object is in shade, then I do not use photoshop for conversion into a sun lit scene. Second, I rather see a somewhat underexposed than an overexposed GBH. Third, although they have "blue" in their specific name, those GBH individuals I am familiar with have very little blue colour plumage. Once their portrayals start resembling Blue jays in colour and lighting vibrance, that's not my cuppa tea. "My" GBHs are mostly steely drab gray in colour with some brownish feathers too.
I hope this explanation you will find to your satisfaction.



Sep 11, 2013 at 11:41 AM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Hey, in a pinch I will use a 400 DO. Could not have got this shot with a 300 f2.8, 400 f2.8, 500 f4, or a 200-400, because they are all too bloody (pardon the Aussie slang) heavy for me.

The best lens is the one that the photographer has the best ability to use.



Always like seeing your 400mm DO shots...since I use my 400 DO mainly for motorsports, I like to see some variety of what it can do.

As much as I would love the 200-400, the thought of lugging something that heavy over my shoulder around a racetrack in the summer makes me start to sweat sitting here, and I run 4-5 miles a day outdoors. Granted, part of the problem is me, as I also don't like using a monopod if I can avoid it. Personal preference.

I'm not a birder, but it seems like the strategy involves less moving around and more finding a good spot, and waiting for the action in a predetermined area. In this situation, I could definately see where a 200-400 would be a huge benefit. And after recently picking up a 6D to complement my 7D, the ISO on these new full frames is so good, I can't imagine f/4 being a problem with something like a 1DX unless you're shooting in the dark.



Sep 11, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Because I'm all that matters. Enough about me, what do you think of me

Well I think you work for Canon but still bloody well speak your mind when you think they've got a wrong approach (or when they do things right), so you're ok in my book, which I'm sure is what really matters to you.



Sep 11, 2013 at 02:48 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Ron, primarily, it is the photographic authenticity.......if the object is in shade, then I do not use photoshop for conversion into a sun lit scene. Second, I rather see a somewhat underexposed than an overexposed GBH. Third, although they have "blue" in their specific name, those GBH individuals I am familiar with have very little blue colour plumage. Once their portrayals start resembling Blue jays in colour and lighting vibrance, that's not my cuppa tea. "My" GBHs are mostly steely drab gray in colour with some brownish feathers too.
I hope this explanation you will find to your satisfaction.
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It satisfies me, too. I like your shadowy shots when I am lucky enough to catch them while they are up at reasonable size. Saw this set, and enjoyed it much.



Sep 11, 2013 at 02:51 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


No BIF action here, just some FIB-ing.
Handheld 1DX + 200-400L @ 400mm.

Edited on Sep 16, 2013 at 11:15 PM · View previous versions



Sep 11, 2013 at 06:17 PM
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Eeeeek!!


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See Shreeni, the problem is that 1DX gives me too much "reach".



Sep 11, 2013 at 09:06 PM
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Congrats on the new lens Peter. I enjoy seeing them in the beauty of their natural environment.


Sep 11, 2013 at 09:33 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


Imagemaster wrote:
Amazing. Who would have thought zooms were more versatile than primes

The 100-400 is even more versatile than the 200-400: lighter, smaller, more manoeuvrable, and a fraction of the cost.

Now if I could only learn to zoom back to 300mm when I get too close.




Lovely shots..

Quick question how flexible is the 100-400 above 400
IQ or the AF at 784
Well now we have answered that...



Sep 11, 2013 at 11:15 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


I thought I'd post this FIB picture on the Macro Forum under the title "Cat eaten by a big pijun."
However, I changed my mind when I remembered that they had a tendency to take their macro photography very seriously.

Handheld 1DX + 200-400L at 560mm.

Edited on Sep 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM · View previous versions



Sep 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM
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That's a superb image, Peter! Not sure how close you were to the action, but the relatively close MFD of the 200-400 is definitely appreciated. The ability to employ the inbuilt TC and/or external TCs at such close distances to increase magnification gets you lots of pixels on subject to show finer details.

An unremarkable sample:





200-400L @ 1120mm




Sep 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


Mitesh,

I respectfully dissent with the "unremarkable" portion of that comment. That is incredibly sharp, especially at 1120mm. My technique must be AWFUL!

Bob



Sep 13, 2013 at 01:16 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


dehowie wrote:
Lovely shots..

Quick question how flexible is the 100-400 above 400
IQ or the AF at 784
Well now we have answered that...


Thanks. And how flexible is the 200-400 below 200 And the IQ and AF at 100mm

Another answer for you, eh?



Sep 13, 2013 at 02:47 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · BIF+FIB-ing with 200-400L


Prevelige wrote:
Mitesh,

I respectfully dissent with the "unremarkable" portion of that comment. That is incredibly sharp, especially at 1120mm. My technique must be AWFUL!

Bob


Well said, Bob, That is one sharp finch detail.



Sep 13, 2013 at 03:23 PM
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I dissent with the "unremarkable" description too! It certainly looks better to me than any 100-400 could achieve, even without a TC


Sep 13, 2013 at 03:27 PM
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Thanks. And how flexible is the 200-400 below 200 And the IQ and AF at 100mm

Another answer for you, eh?


Doesn't the bias of a wildlife lens lean towards options and quality on the long end?



Sep 13, 2013 at 03:31 PM
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