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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I have found a Canon 300 2.8 non IS lens in excellent condition at a decent price. Since I will use the lens for sports the majority of the time, the lack of IS does not concern me. I am also aware Canon does not service this lens any more. Is there that big of a difference in performance of this version compared to the first generation IS version? Thank you in advance for your comments, Greg.


Sep 09, 2013 at 03:44 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I had the IS version. It's an outstanding lens - and that doesn't even begin to describe it. If you buy it at a good price and you don't like it you can always sell it again. Depending on what you paid, it's cheaper to do this than rent for a couple weeks.


Sep 09, 2013 at 04:03 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I just bought the 300 IS V I and I'm female, 5'3" and petite. I can hand hold it. My first 70 200 was the 2.8 non IS version and I loved the lens, but I could not hand hold it. To me it would depend on if I wanted to use a monopod or tripod most of the time with the lens. I seriously thought of getting the non IS because I did not think I could handle it. It is terrible heavy, and large, and I can't hold it for hours but I can manage it. Also, just FYI, and other places would service the non IS I am sure, but I did call Canon when I bought mine, and they do still service the Version I. Of course, a really good deal is always hard to pass up, to me, personally, it would be how good, and can I live with packing a monopod all the time with it.


Sep 09, 2013 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I have the 400 2.8 non IS version...and I can't see any difference in image quality versus some of my friends 500 IS. I bought mine for the same reason most likely like you..since I normally shoot higher shutter speeds, the IS wasn't an issue....and I saved $$$

Images below were either with a 1.4 or 2x TC or straight out of lens

I really love mine..and it looks like the day it was made.

Mine is used 50 50.....50% motorsports.....50% wildlife





onesickpuppy 2013

snowy fun

  Canon EOS-1D Mark III    EF400mm f/2.8L USM +2.0x lens    800mm    f/5.6    1/1250s    320 ISO    0.0 EV  





onesickpuppy 2013

launching hard

  Canon EOS-1D Mark III    EF400mm f/2.8L USM lens    400mm    f/3.5    1/3200s    2000 ISO    +1.0 EV  





onesickpuppy 2013

streaking by

  Canon EOS-1D Mark III    EF400mm f/2.8L USM +1.4x lens    560mm    f/29.0    1/80s    640 ISO    +1.3 EV  





onesickpuppy 2013

last light ponderence

  Canon EOS-1D Mark III    EF400mm f/2.8L USM +1.4x lens    560mm    f/5.0    1/400s    1250 ISO    +0.3 EV  




Sep 09, 2013 at 05:24 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


the one thing you need to be aware of is that the AF motor is similar to the 200/1.8 . ie its focus by wire .
so in the unfortunate event that the AF motor has a problem you wont even have a manual focus lens .

now a repair centre like midstate may be able to help you (they seem to be able to sort the 200 regulay enough) but its worth thinking about .
and parts you need wont be cheap as they normaly come from donor lenses sourced on the open (ebay etc) market



Sep 09, 2013 at 06:31 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


Had a non IS for a few years and have the new mk2 . No difference in image quality !! but the new one has 4 stops IS and is a good lot lighter.

www.industryimage.com



Sep 09, 2013 at 12:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


Jason, my goal is to us it a year or two and then upgrade to an IS version.

PCK, I have no problem shooting an entire football game with my 1D3 and 70-200 2.8IS with a 1.4. With deadlines the way they are now I usually only have time for the first half, if that. Weight will not be an issue for me.

Sick pup, darned nice images. Thanks for sharing. I will try to get down to Thunder on the Ohio next year. I haven't been since my uncle raced back in the '70s. I will take my extenders.

Ian, it will be a roll of the dice. I am hopeful the pristine condition will work to my advantage.

Warjoe, good insights. Wonderful images on your website.






Sep 10, 2013 at 01:58 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


dreamfields wrote:
I have found a Canon 300 2.8 non IS lens in excellent condition at a decent price. Since I will use the lens for sports the majority of the time, the lack of IS does not concern me. I am also aware Canon does not service this lens any more. Is there that big of a difference in performance of this version compared to the first generation IS version? Thank you in advance for your comments, Greg.



Are all the football games during the day? None at night? I have the IS version 1 and contemplated getting the non-is as I shoot with monopod. The fact that Canon does not support any repair and the most common repair is the AF motor, I decided against it...too risky.

For me, the deal would have to be ultra-sweet. Best of luck!!



Sep 10, 2013 at 03:14 AM
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PCKit wrote:
I just bought the 300 IS V I and I'm female, 5'3" and petite. I can hand hold it. My first 70 200 was the 2.8 non IS version and I loved the lens, but I could not hand hold it. To me it would depend on if I wanted to use a monopod or tripod most of the time with the lens. I seriously thought of getting the non IS because I did not think I could handle it. It is terrible heavy, and large, and I can't hold it for hours but I can manage it. Also, just
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You could hold the 300 2.8 IS original all day but couldn't hand hold the 70-200 2.8 non-IS at all?? Or did you mean to say the 300 2.8 non-IS and not 70-200 2.8 non-IS The 70-200 2.8 non-IS is trivial to hand hold compared to the 300 2.8 IS IMO and it factually weighs a lot less.

Anyway I've heard that the 300 2.8 non-IS weighs a decent bit more, I did hold it once ages ago but I hadn't held a 2.8 IS yet at that time and I really don't recall the weight. It was on a 1 series and seemed to focus very quickly compared to on my 20D. I've heard that the IQ is just a bit less than for the 2.8 IS but it is darn fine from what I recall seeing in the few test snaps, better than most lenses for sure.

I know a lot of sports guys got the 400 2.8 non-IS (second non-IS version, the very original 400 2.8 non-IS had a bit worse IQ and weighed pounds and pounds) because it cost them TONS less and it delivered great images and saving thousands of dollars was worth a lot more than the odd IS shot or a little bit of weight (since they'd use it 100% on monopod and park right by the field). I've seen hundreds of amazing images taken with that.



Sep 10, 2013 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


The 400 2.8 IS II is said to be noticeably lighter than the IS and even more compared to the non-IS and super radically so compared to the original non-IS version,

For dual usage (not the OP's case), including wildlife, I'd way go for the IS versions of the 300mm over the non-IS.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I agree... owned both IS and non... IS is definitely better if you can gather extra cash. if not, non-IS has for sure, better IQ than f/4L

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Sep 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


"You could hold the 300 2.8 IS original all day but couldn't hand hold the 70-200 2.8 non-IS at all??"

My interpretation of this was/is:

Due to the 70-200 2.8 not having IS, her images were more apt to be compromised when factoring in the weight and lack of IS. That the 300 with IS, and due to the IS, she (Kathy) was able to produce a higher success rate. These two lenses are not that far off in terms of weight - considering Kathy's size.

As a person who owns a Canon 500 mm (non IS) and a Sigma 300-800mm (non IS/OS), it is my opinion that shutter speed can make up for most of the lack of IS, but not all of it. The 500 was my first long lens and I don't use it that much and didn't want to shell out the money for the IS version. The 300-800 isn't offered with IS/OS and there is no way I can hand hold that lens anyway.

I am considering the 300 2.8 IS V I. I personally (considering my other lenses 70-200 2.8 IS II, 400 5.6, 500 4.5 non-IS, 300-800 non IS) wouldn't not consider this lens without the IS FOR MY NEEDS/DESIRES.



Mar 14, 2014 at 08:25 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


buy whichever of the 300 2.8's you can afford.. they're an awesome lens


Mar 14, 2014 at 09:57 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I too have a 300mmm f2.8 L IS decision to make. To sell or not to sell. I am spending more time travelling, taking family shots & landscapes. I'm trying to decide whether to sell & buy a TSE+ fast prime/6D or keep.


Mar 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


onesickpuppy wrote:
I have the 400 2.8 non IS version...



That's nice, but what has it got to do with the Canon 300 2.8 non IS lens the OP is asking about



Mar 16, 2014 at 07:01 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I've got and use a 20 year old 300 f2.8 non is and it's still spot on.


Mar 17, 2014 at 08:18 PM
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Tony B wrote:
I too have a 300mmm f2.8 L IS decision to make. To sell or not to sell. I am spending more time travelling, taking family shots & landscapes. I'm trying to decide whether to sell & buy a TSE+ fast prime/6D or keep.


You would probably be much better off selling it. They really have dropped in value quite a bit now that the version 2 is out. You'll be lucky to get a couple hundred bucks for it. But hey, I am feeling really generous and want to support your efforts to take more pictures of your kids and spend more time with them, so I will happily give you a thousand for it



Mar 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


kmunroe wrote:
buy whichever of the 300 2.8's you can afford.. they're an awesome lens

+! I have the Mk II and love it Because of the weight I actually prefer it to the 500F4 II
Niall



Mar 26, 2014 at 06:58 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


Both lens are really great to use, but really, save up a little more and get the IS.


Mar 27, 2014 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Canon 300 2.8 decision time


I did buy the non IS version and once I somewhat mastered hand holding it, I managed get some nice opposite end of the court high school hoops shots. Wicked sharp lens.


Mar 27, 2014 at 10:14 PM





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