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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Hello,

In a few weeks I will be headed to Yellowstone with my son to participate in a week long photography workshop. I will be bringing my 60D and 6D. My son will bring his 7D. In my kit I have a 17-40, 24-105 and 100-400. My son will bring his 15-85 and will rent a 100-400. He is debating about renting the 10-22 and perhaps the 1.4x EF Extender. With the crop factor of 1.6 he will be shooting at 24 mm with his 15-85, we think this is probably alright for most of his landscape shots.

Now for wildlife we wondered about the extender on either one of our cameras. Does anyone have any thoughts about how well the 1.4x will work on either the 60D, 7D or the 6D? I've heard, from someone at a camera store, that the 100-400 auto focus will do a lot of hunting when attached to my 60D but I'm not sure of what type of results we would get on his 7D or my 6D. The 1.4x EF Extender can be rented from Lens Rental for around $50, so we thought it might be worth the chance to try it out on this type of trip. I would appreciate your thoughts on your experience with the 1.4x on either a crop or full frame camera. Thanks for your time.




Sep 08, 2013 at 04:20 PM
Jeff Nolten
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


With the Canon extenders none of your cameras will auto focus with the 100-400. Some non-Canon non-reporting extenders will still attempt AF but I'll have to let others report on their effectiveness. You already have a fair amount of reach with your crop cameras and the 100-400. Unless you are going after birds it will probably suffice for the typical mammals you see. I got some nice images of a coyote hunting gophers for example.

I find my 1.4x II doesn't degrade the 100-400 very much. Some loss of contrast that can be remedied in post.

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Sep 08, 2013 at 04:35 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Jeff Nolten wrote:
With the Canon extenders none of your cameras will auto focus with the 100-400. Some non-Canon non-reporting extenders will still attempt AF but I'll have to let others report on their effectiveness. You already have a fair amount of reach with your crop cameras and the 100-400. Unless you are going after birds it will probably suffice for the typical mammals you see. I got some nice images of a coyote hunting gophers for example.

+1. You can get a Kenko DG Pro 300, usually around $150. Doesnt hurt to have it, there are times when you can spot items very far away and the extender may be able to get a better image. At these distances, the shots are going to be for memory anyhow.



Sep 08, 2013 at 04:37 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


As Jeff said, none of the bodies will AF with the 1.4 on the 100-400 because the min f-stop will be f/8 and you would need a 1 series or 5D3 to allow AF. However, you can tape the 3 pins on the TC and the cameras will attempt to AF. On the 7D it actually does okay with every point except for the centre point when taped. The centre point won't AF for some reason. I have no experience with the other 2 bodies. It is not good enough for tracking birds in flight but it is good enough for larger animals or perched birds. With the 1 series and 5D3 it is good enough for birds in flight of the large variety like eagles, swans etch.


Sep 08, 2013 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Skip renting a T/C, they are convenient, but...I'd suggest renting a 500 or 600mm...go for the reach, faster AF and better IQ...and share a supertele


Sep 08, 2013 at 05:56 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


The 500 or 600mm is a good suggestion, but heavy. I haven't used one, but how about a 400 f/5.6, light and pretty damned sharp based upon much of what we see here and elsewhere.


Sep 08, 2013 at 06:03 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Unless you are used to using a super-tele, renting a 500 or 600 is a bad idea. Too heavy for many to handhold, and unless you want to add a tripod and ball head, forget it.

The 400 f5.6 is not noticeably sharper than the 100-400 and not as versatile.

Even with pins taped or a non-reporting TC, both sharpness and AF take a noticeable hit when used on the 400 f5.6 and 100-400.



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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Imagemaster wrote:
Unless you are used to using a super-tele, renting a 500 or 600 is a bad idea. Too heavy for many to handhold, and unless you want to add a tripod and ball head, forget it.

The 400 f5.6 is not noticeably sharper than the 100-400 and not as versatile.

Even with pins taped or a non-reporting TC, both sharpness and AF take a noticeable hit when used on the 400 f5.6 and 100-400.


+1 to everything said here. A 7D with a 400mm lens gives nice reach and it's really portable. You'll come home with amazing shots if you focus on what you CAN shoot instead of what you're missing.



Sep 09, 2013 at 02:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


The 100-400 will help with roadside wildlife compared to the 400mm. I would choose the 100-400 over the 400mm f/5.6 if going to yellowstone. At 400mm you can do animal landscapes which can be very nice as well as the tight shots from the super teles.


Sep 09, 2013 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


John : Me and my wife did the YSNP & GTNP in June this year. I bought bought both the 1.4x & 2.x (III) prior to the trip.

I was shooting a 5D MarkIII with either the 70-200/2.8 or 500/4 where as my wife was using a 7D with 24-105/4 & 300/4 and a Powershot SX50HS.

We rarely took the extenders out of the bag



Sep 09, 2013 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


++1 what Imagemaster said about the 500/600mm lenses. These lenses are large and very heavy and require a serious tripod and gimbal head to use them. I would pass on these lenses as they will certainly make your photo experience not plesant. When you are the workshop, someone will have one of these lenses and you can then get a sense of the size and weight of them. Good luck!


Sep 09, 2013 at 03:55 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


I went to Yellowstone in July and took most of my lenses. I used the 100-400 on the 7d and my Tamron 24-70 on my 5d MKII. Period! On the few occasions when I wished I had longer, 500 or 600 still would not have been long enough. For wide shots I stitched instead of using my 16-28. Very happy with all my results but I could have traveled much lighter.


Sep 09, 2013 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 1.4x EF Extender III question


Just came back from Jasper and I found the 600mm with 1.4x and 2x extenders were all used quite a bit in addition to a 70-200mm. In some ways, I found the wildlife photo environment similar to YSNP region. As said above, the 600mm demands a lot of attention due to its size and weight, totally changing one's way of doing things. Just dealing with plane travel is a headache but doable. It can be rewarding to plop that baby on a heavy pod and gimbal for something out a ways, but nothing I would rent for a vacation without having used it locally first so you know what you are getting into. Now the 400mm DO f/4 IS with or without the 1.4x is manageable and something to consider - it is a fine hand holdable lens and don't be misled to believe otherwise. However, it is difficult to use the zoom.... The 100-400 will serve you well and you won't feel like your are missing out. If you enjoy your trip, you can always go back!


Sep 09, 2013 at 04:16 PM





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