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dartheyeball
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Gear Conundrum


I am currently shooting with two D70s cameras with 70-210 F4 and 50mm 1.8 lenses. I mainly shoot sports. Most of my work has been high school soccer. The issue I am having now is that my both my D70s cameras seem to be exhibiting the early stages of the CHA error. When I was out shooting a few days ago, one of my D70s started randomly freezing up after I had taken a few shots. Then, today I got the dreaded CHA error. I love my D70s cameras, but they are somewhat limited when shooting sports, especially when the lighting conditions deteriorate.

The question is whether it would be smart to repair the D70s cameras or take the money that I'd spend fixing them and invest in newer tech, namely a D300 and older push/pull 80-200mm 2.8. You can get a 80-200mm 2.8 push/pull in EX condition for around $350 on KEH. Used D300 camera run about $450-$550 on the forums here. I know it would cost at least $200 per D70 to have them repaired. I also was considering parting with my 70-210 F4 lens as well. I figure with a D300/80-200mm 2.8 combo, I shoot most of my sports and rent a 300mm F4 AF-S lens when I need the reach.




Aug 28, 2013 at 02:19 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Gear Conundrum


I would not spend $200 to repair a D70s, I would buy another one if you were attached to that camera. I bought mine this summer for $125 on Craigslist with 2000 clicks on it. I would spring for the D300.


Aug 28, 2013 at 02:24 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Gear Conundrum


I would not consider putting money into fixing up a D70 or a D80. Instead, I would look to get a used D300 or D300s. I think you will be much better off that way. good luck with your decisions!
Keith W.



Aug 28, 2013 at 04:26 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Gear Conundrum


The D300 I can recommend. For sports the latest version of the 80-200 push/pull focusses a bit slow but otherwise is any bit as capable as the 2 ring version.

I went for a 2 ring version for the faster AF. For me it makes all the difference.



Aug 28, 2013 at 06:05 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Gear Conundrum


Looks like a D300 is in my future. I'll probably just sell the 70-210 F4 lens to fund an 80-200mm 2.8. I may have one of the D70s camera repaired for a backup. My concern with buying a nother used one is that I will end up running into the same issue again.


Aug 28, 2013 at 06:26 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Gear Conundrum


Why not a D7100 instead?


Aug 28, 2013 at 06:59 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Gear Conundrum


If I had the extra money, I'd consider a D7100.


Aug 28, 2013 at 07:10 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Gear Conundrum


dartheyeball wrote:
My concern with buying another used one is that I will end up running into the same issue again.


I guess this is where luck comes into it. When the poster (Inlawbiker) above bought his it only had 2,000 clicks on it & cost US$125 - so much better value than having one of yours repaired (instead keep it for back up parts).



Aug 28, 2013 at 09:47 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Gear Conundrum


My luck has been bad with the D70s dslrs. Every single D70s that I have owned has developed the CHA error. Both of my current D70s cameras have low actuations. I hate to buy another one unless I know it has had the repair done in the past.


Aug 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM
 

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Gear Conundrum


dartheyeball wrote:
Looks like a D300 is in my future. I'll probably just sell the 70-210 F4 lens to fund an 80-200mm 2.8. I may have one of the D70s camera repaired for a backup. My concern with buying a nother used one is that I will end up running into the same issue again.



You can probably find a used D200 for about the price it'll take to repair the 2nd D70. Much better choice.





Aug 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Gear Conundrum


I'll check out the D200 as well. It's been a while since I looked at the used prices for one.


Aug 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Gear Conundrum


You could also consider a refurbished D7000, which is going for less than $700 these days, gives you a little more high ISO improvement over the D300 and some niceties like dual card slots and video.

Don't get me wrong, the D300 is a great camera and I'm sure it would serve you well - just pointing out that you can get a generation newer technology with a factory warranty for not much money. Cameta had 'em for like $680.



Aug 28, 2013 at 12:30 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Gear Conundrum


The D300 will be a noticeable advance over the D70. You can easily shoot it at ISO 800, and ISO 1600 in a pinch. The autofocus on it is very fast. If the sports are outdoor during daylight, you might consider a 70-300mm lens instead of the 80-200mm.


Kent in SD



Aug 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Gear Conundrum


Another vote for the D300, just post a willing to buy (WTB) thread on the buy/sell section and the price you want to spend. You'll find someone shortly.


Aug 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Gear Conundrum


dartheyeball wrote:
If I had the extra money, I'd consider a D7100.


Sorry..was only comparing prices on Amazon. Didn't realize you can get a used D300 so cheap. Whatever you do, I think the D70 has fulfilled its purpose and you have gotten a solid ROI! time to move forward.



Aug 28, 2013 at 02:37 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Gear Conundrum


The D70s cameras definitely made the money back that I invested in them. I used them to shoot for a client at the US Youth Soccer Nationals last month. They performed well and my client was pleased.







1

  NIKON D70s    70.0-210.0 mm f/4.0 lens    135mm    f/4.0    1/1250s    400 ISO    +0.7 EV  







2

  NIKON D70s    300.0 mm f/4.0 lens    300mm    f/4.0    1/800s    800 ISO    +0.7 EV  







3

  NIKON D70s    300.0 mm f/4.0 lens    300mm    f/4.0    1/2500s    400 ISO    +0.7 EV  







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  NIKON D70s    300.0 mm f/4.0 lens    300mm    f/4.0    1/2500s    640 ISO    +0.7 EV  




Aug 28, 2013 at 09:03 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Gear Conundrum


just goes to show, as long as the equipment meets a minimum standard, it's all about the photographer. great shots.

if you're shooting mainly outdoors, I would consider the 70-300mm vr, used (going for around $350). Sure, it's not f/2.8, but unless you absolutely need the bokeh (and given that you were shooting f/4 before, it's not that much less), it combines fast AF, vr, and reach when needed. Optically, from 70-200, it's as sharp as you're going to get in that range, and out to 300 is not that shabby.

as for the body, you're definitely on the right track with the D300s. unless the D90 is significantly cheaper (e.g. with the savings, you can get the 80-200 f/2.8 2 ring), you really can't go wrong.

i also had a D70s, and it was starting to lose its legs. i'd start getting CHA errors more frequently, and every now and then, a raw would be half-written to the card. i had just over 10k clicks on it too. i was fortunate enough to make the jump to the D600 (by selling my beloved 17-55/2.8 dx and 85/1.8) + 24-85vr and the 70-300vr.

good luck shooting!



Aug 28, 2013 at 09:42 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Gear Conundrum


Thanks! The issue I came to realize when I was shooting the US Youth Nationals is that even though I was getting decent shots; with the gear that I had, I had reached a ceiling. There comes a time when technique and knowledge will only get you so far. I have to invest in good gear. I'll be shooting some night games this fall and I need better low light performance. My goal is to get a 80-200 2.8 and a 300mm 2.8 as well. It's only a matter of time before both my D70s fail completely, so I better get moving!


Aug 28, 2013 at 09:59 PM





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