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heikoM
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Need some equipment advice...


I like to use off-camera flash. The problem is that my SB 910 is not strong enought to kill daylight further then 1-2 meters away, let allone with some kind of diffuser.

Works OK with 3 flashes put together, but that is kind of clumsy because I like to just hold it in my hand to be able to work "reportage-style".

Is there any kind of handheld flash/strobe that can output so much light in one unit? So studioflash would not work I am afraid.


Another question: is there any flash where you can adjust manual flash-output with radio-transmitter? I do so with the Nikon system and the Pocket-Wizards, but that does not work with Leica.


Any suggestions will be apreciated...

thanks,

heiko



Jul 23, 2013 at 07:21 AM
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maybe a Metz 60 CT-4?
http://photocornucopia.com/1033.html



Jul 23, 2013 at 07:36 AM
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cheetah?


Jul 23, 2013 at 07:59 AM
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Yep. Cheetah CL180.

Gordon



Jul 23, 2013 at 08:30 AM
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Cheetah CL 360, that looks quiet good

anyone of using this?

heiko



Jul 23, 2013 at 09:38 AM
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heikoM wrote:
Cheetah CL 360, that looks quiet good

anyone of using this?

heiko


I am. I have three CL 180's and one CL 360. I love these lights. The 180's are twice the power of my 580ex lights.



Jul 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM
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p.1 #7 · STRONG handhold flash?


I like ganging up a few flashes on this;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00445YIEG/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Use the middle mounting part as a handle, no cords and battery packs to get tangled on



Jul 23, 2013 at 11:14 AM
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regarding to the"handle"
I do this, too, mine allow placing 3 strobes in a triangel, but if you run around holding this in your hand for some time, it

1: is very clumpsy
2: looks quite stupid
3: am i always afraid that one gets loose and fall down...


(0:

heiko



Jul 23, 2013 at 11:21 AM
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p.1 #9 · STRONG handhold flash?


Zoom it in and it will be strong enough


Jul 23, 2013 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #10 · STRONG handhold flash?


@ Tony,

I do, zooming in at 50 or 75. More is difficult as I shoot it on moving subjects and holding the flash myself.

Here are some pics (no wedding though)

http://www.schmidt-weddingphoto.com/familien-shooting-and-der-ostsee/



heiko



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p.1 #11 · STRONG handhold flash?


CL360 is the way to go, unless you need a dual purpose on-camera and off camera flash. It lacks in on-camera due to the weak IR beam, but otherwise it's an excellent off camera flash unit.


Jul 23, 2013 at 03:14 PM
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Use a Fuji X100 or other camera with leaf or electronic shutter and you'll get a lot more effective power out of that one speedlight.

Also/or, it looks like you're shooting shallow DOF, so probably using FP Sync for high shutter speeds, right? Use an ND on the lens and keep within sync speed and you'll pick up a couple stops of power from that SB-910.



Jul 24, 2013 at 06:11 AM
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hm, yes high sync with the Nikon, but ND filter with the Leica.

I found not much difference. I assume the loss of high speed sync ist counteracted by the fact that you do not lose 4 stops throught the ND filter.

Fuji x100, that may work...




Jul 24, 2013 at 07:01 AM
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p.1 #14 · STRONG handhold flash?


Just ordered the CL-360 for a strong flash that will have HSS capability.


Jul 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM
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let us know how it works for you...

heiko



Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM
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Will do!


Jul 24, 2013 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #17 · STRONG handhold flash?


heikoM wrote:
my SB 910 is not strong enough to kill daylight further then 1-2 meters away, let alone with some kind of diffuser


Sounds like you're using high-speed sync.

I use Canon's version of the 910, the 580. Granted, I think Canon's flash is rated just a tad more powerful than the 910 but I am able to fill shadows on a sunny day with a subject distance of three to about six meters. [So ten, even twenty American feet.] I avoid high-speed sync, use no diffuser on the flash, and do use a neutral density filter.


A quick search brought up the quote below off the flickr photo-sharing site, which was in response to someone who was considering purchasing a flash with high-speed sync capability:

"If you want to overpower the sun, you will have to stay at sync speed, because you lose too much power with HSS - believe me."




Jul 24, 2013 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #18 · STRONG handhold flash?


hm, maybe I was wrong, but my experience is that it does not matter much if I use high sync or close the aperture (which, of course, is the same as using a ND filter).
I think I will do a test and see how it is...


heiko



Jul 24, 2013 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #19 · STRONG handhold flash?


Buy a flex tt5 and shoot hypersync...with my sb600 and a d3 i can sync 1/800-1/250s, f/6.3 at iso 200...1/2 power from the flash EASILY gets me 10ft, at full power i can go prob 15ft...fyi, 1/1250s at f/6.3 at iso 200, underexposes ambient by almost 2 stops at 12 noon.

Also, hypersync doesnt work as well with speedlights, as it does with slower studio strobes...so if you ever decide to use a studio strobe, get ready to turn day into night!



Jul 24, 2013 at 11:02 PM
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have the tt5...


Jul 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM
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