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Jay Connor
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p.1 #1 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Hi Folks

I will be shooting a 15 person wedding party outside sometime midday

Was thinking of using Paul Buff's Soft Silver PLM umbrellas +/- the White Front Diffusion Fabric

Also considering the 51" vs 64" sizes

I havent used these before so would appreciate any advice/info

{I do have several backup plans and equipment in case this doesnt work}

Thanks in advance

Jay



Jul 14, 2013 at 03:35 PM
BruceF99
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p.1 #2 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Bigger, is better, of course. But, what lights are you using and how many of them?


Jul 14, 2013 at 05:03 PM
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p.1 #3 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


HI Bruce

I would expect to use 2 umbrellas

For strobes I have an Einstein and an AB800 w Vagabonds

Also have Elinchrom Ranger and Profoto Acute B with appropriate modifiers to PLMs

Jay



Jul 14, 2013 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #4 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


I've used them for that. Shoot through as well as the soft silver.
Wind is the biggest concern.
You may be able to get away with just one light right over the camera.



Jul 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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p.1 #5 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Thanks dmward

Agree w wind concern - especially since wedding on coast in Rhode Island

I will have C-Stands with weights

As you said - the question is can I get away with 1 light above me

I plan on doing tests this week but trying to get as much info before hand as possible

Tks
Jay

Jay



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p.1 #6 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Wind concerns are not just about the stand and light tipping over, it's how the wind can turn a cheap umbrella into an inside out one. You should have plan B in case there is a lot of wind. If it's midday and there's any sun you would be just as well off to use standard or umbrella reflectors on a couple of strobes as fill. Unless you have a couple of assistants that can bend the umbrellas back for you.


Jul 15, 2013 at 01:16 AM
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p.1 #7 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Thanks for the suggestions Gregg

Agree with you completely - always good to have alternative plans

I will have 1 assistant

Plan B
2 Bare reflectors

Plan C
2 Portalite Elinchroms softboxes

Plan D
2 Canon 580EXs controlled by PW or Odins

Thanks again and I appreciate all the advice

Jay





Jul 15, 2013 at 01:41 AM
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p.1 #8 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


Gregg Heckler wrote:
the wind can turn a cheap umbrella into an inside out one


Note: it has NOTHING to do with a "cheap umbrella". The fact that it is any umbrella will turn it inside out....even the worlds best made.



Jul 16, 2013 at 02:45 AM
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p.1 #9 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


I've used 2 43" westcott shorts to light 25 people groups.

You'll be fine with those large sizes. Gel to match ambient if you have to. Get the stand up as high as you can, aim in down like a 45 or so.

The approach I take to lighting group portraits is to get light in all of their eyes, and reduce shadows cast as best as I can. Sometimes you can't do that and there will be a lack of space or factors that make is so that you cannot do this, so you make the best you can. Get everyone smiling, and not blinking and keep light in all of their eyes...especially the bride and groom.

Also, you want to try and position your lights so that they do not have your subjects in the first row metering at f/8 and then your subjects in the back metering at f/4 or f/2.8




Jul 25, 2013 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #10 · Paul Buff's PLM umbrellas to light a 15 person wedding group


With only 15 people to worry about (and the associated composition) one of the PCB PLM over head will do like a champ. Try and stay out of direct sun


Jul 28, 2013 at 07:23 PM





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