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picboy wrote:
That's nice of you. I assume the security guards, vendors, refs, coaches, maintenance people, etc volunteer for the games too? So you will take all that gear you paid cash for and work a good 4-5 hours per game shooting, captioning and filing for free? At LEAST get that hot dog and soda. I'm sure the volunteer media director gets a similar perk package maybe even a cup of coffee before the game. Heck, go over the top and demand an official, not knock-off, team hat.
Oh, do make sure to offer to provide free portraits of the players and even short game videos for their website. Those are important skills you will need to master when you decide to move on and volunteer for an NFL team. I hear the local NFL media guy gives his volunteer photogs free cheerleader calendars-autographed!!
All the best. ...Show more →
Thanks for keeping things friendly picboy. Your response is pretty much par for the field on internet forums these days. You must be making the big bucks huh.
innaeddy1 wrote:
I am sure this thread will probably blow up. Look what picboy wrote, read it then read it again. I am going to try and say this in a way not to come off like an a$$
1....get rid of this word volunteering
2.... What kind of things should be discussed at our meeting as far as the terms? How much money are you going to get paid, How can you use the files, How the school can use the files, do I get money off the sales from the school.
3....What kind of insurance do you have, for your gear and yourself
4....If you want to "practice your craft" why not go to a local High School or Middle School or even a rec park, most people on the sidelines are working professionals
5.... The school has a budget I am sure for photography, even if it is a small school, so if they can get it for free they will
6....Your not helping yourself by doing this, you are alienating yourself from other people who would be willing to help. Trust me when the working photographers on the sideline find out your giving images away for free and working for access your name will spread like wildfire and not in a good way.
I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but you need to take a long hard look before doing this for the terms you mentioned. I am sure other people will chime in so you had better get a thick skin quick if you don't already
Andy...Show more →
1.) Good advice, didn't meant to offend anyone. Not sure why everyone always feels threatened by the noobs. You professionals think someone with no experience is going to steal your business? Not gonna happen. Everyone has to start at the bottom and work their way up. If volunteering in exchange for access is going to get me in the door then so be it.
2.) What I was thinking. Thanks.
3.) I don't know anything about insurance that is needed. That is something I would need to discussed. Thanks for bringing it up.
4.) Not a bad idea.
5.) Yes, they are on budget. I believe a majority of the guys helping out are student interns at the moment.
6.) I respectfully disagree. The more people that can help out the better. Yes, there will probably be a working professional from the local paper there but we wouldn't be taking anything away from them. Is there something wrong with wanting to help your school and be involved?
I don't mind hearing this Andy, but this is not what I expected. Thanks for your comments.
picboy wrote:
Ok, Andy said it better than me.....
oh, learn how to use PhotoMechanic.
Thanks, I hear this is a great program that will speed up your workflow.
millsart wrote:
I will typically charge most universities I shoot for $300-500 per game which they always seem happy to pay for the coverage and I still have fun doing it.
If your images are good enough that the school wants to use them, then they are worth being paid for.
Don't screw yourself over giving away your work for free, and don't screw over the rest of the industry who is working to keep a roof over their heads and worries about supporting their families, not "practicing their craft and having fun"
I see a bit where you are coming from on this one. However, I think that is a poor mentality. Do you see anyone with a camera a direct competitor? I'm sure you have years of experience and that puts you on a whole different level. Like I said before, we all start somewhere. I mean where did you start? I don't plan on doing this for a living but if my work did get good enough then sure I would charge accordingly. Also, is this how pros feel now that cameras are better and cheaper than ever: .
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