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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn.

Thinking about upgrading from the IIn to the III.

Will be shooting HS soccer under lights and some club soccer under lights.

Your thoughts?

Thanks.

Alan

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Jul 08, 2013 at 08:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


If by 2 stop advantage you mean images are as clean when at 1600 on the MK3 as 400 on the MK2 then I would say so. Might even be a little greater when you go to higher ISOs.



Jul 08, 2013 at 08:52 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


Yes, I am referring to ISO.


Jul 08, 2013 at 09:02 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


I haven't compared the qualitative differences in High ISO performance between the two bodies (quality of noise, banding, etc.. vs quantity), but the quantitative data from DxoMark indicates both bodies have nearly identical noise performance in the midtones and the 1DM3 has about 2/3 stop advantage in the shadows.


Jul 08, 2013 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


3200 is a usable ISO on the 1D3. Its not really on the 1d2.


Jul 08, 2013 at 09:08 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


UGADawg wrote:
3200 is a usable ISO on the 1D3. Its not really on the 1d2.


I see your a dog fan. I'm over in Watkinsville.

Worth spending $600 to upgrade from IIn to III?



Jul 08, 2013 at 09:14 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


For higher ISO, the upgrade is useful. Plus the nice 1D3 batteries, dust shaker for the sensor, and ability to microfocus adjust lenses make it a solid upgrade at the current pricing.


Jul 08, 2013 at 09:18 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


The 1DmkIII remains as my all time favorite DSLR from Canon to-date. I was by far happier with that camera than any other one I've owned. I've had three of them over the years.


Jul 08, 2013 at 09:18 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


I'd say the 1DIII is at least one ISO stop better than the 1DII. I rarely used my 1DII bodies at above 800, while I sometimes used my 1DIII at 3200. Maybe that's two stops.

Plus, what Michelle said.



Jul 08, 2013 at 09:44 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


I think ISO 1600 is passable on the 1d2/1d2n with modern noise reduction- if you nail exposure. If you have to push the image, it isn't very good at all.




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


It's up for sale at craigslist. Will be looking for a mkIII.

Thanks for all the feedback.



Jul 08, 2013 at 10:19 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


mco_970 wrote:
For higher ISO, the upgrade is useful. Plus the nice 1D3 batteries, dust shaker for the sensor, and ability to microfocus adjust lenses make it a solid upgrade at the current pricing.


+1



Jul 08, 2013 at 11:17 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


ISO 6400 was not that pretty of a sight on the 1D Mark III, but 3200 was good. I don't know if I'd say it has a two-stop advantage, more like one, but pushing 6400 when necessary wasn't as bad as 3200 on the IIn (I have owned both cameras, now use a 1D4 and 5d2).


Jul 09, 2013 at 01:52 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


Well, I loved the IIn and still think it is one of Canon's all time best. It was fine at ISO 800, could work okay at 1250, but you had to have the right subject and do a fair amount of NR at 1600. I'd say the 1DIII could definitely do another stop and I could under duress shoot at 3200 maybe a bit more. Always thought the 1DIII image was "colder" for want of a better term.

Found myself shooting sports in very bad light for a paycheck and got the 1DIV. I do shoot it regularly (football) at ISO 25600 wide open at f/2.8. It takes some luck and a lot of work but I can get newspaper ready images out of it. I don't think they could print any bigger than 8x10 and then only on some of them. I guess the 1Dx adds another stop, maybe a stop and a half, but $6.5K (or $5.7K if you ever catch it on Canon referb.) is a lot of cash. This local economy won't support the investment so I don't know.

Back to OP's question, my experience supports the 1DIII as definitely a stop faster and two if you have to have it and are willing to work the RAW fairly heavily. Don't know how dark or how fast your subjects are but within the 1600 to maybe 3200 the 1DIII is a solid camera.

Robert



Jul 09, 2013 at 03:32 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


It blows my mind that modern bodies have usable 25k ISO.


Jul 09, 2013 at 03:50 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


I had 1D2n couple of years ago, trade it with a 1D3.
Overall 1D3 is much better camera than 1D2n,
but one thing I cannot forget about 1D2n, coupled with 135L its ISO 100 is spectacular.

@shmoogy: it blows my mind that in 1986 I shot a concert with ISO 400, F3HP and 80-200 f/4 manual zoom.



Jul 09, 2013 at 04:10 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


Alan,
if you are serious, you can purchase my mk3.



Jul 10, 2013 at 11:03 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


Tom Dix wrote:
Alan,
if you are serious, you can purchase my mk3.


How do you like the 1D mkIII? Do you shoot sports? Seems to be lots of love or lots of hate for this camera.



Jul 11, 2013 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


mco_970 wrote:
For higher ISO, the upgrade is useful. Plus the nice 1D3 batteries, dust shaker for the sensor, and ability to microfocus adjust lenses make it a solid upgrade at the current pricing.



I've had/have both cameras. This is a good summary.



Jul 11, 2013 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Yes or no. 1D mkIII has a two stop advantage over the 1D mkIIn


I've owned both. Two stops is not accurate. I would say one stop is more like it. I found the 1DMkIII very useable at 1600 ISO. The 3" LCD is a nice improvement also, as is the newer & lighter battery. The issue I had was that I could never get the auto-focus to quite work for me. My current 1DMkIV is a big improvement in that respect.


Jul 11, 2013 at 09:01 PM
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