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p.1 #1 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


I just bought this flash about a week ago. It is very impressive. The Cheetah CL-180 is a very high quality, beautifully finished, manual bare-bulb flash that is powered by a lithium battery pack. The unit has wireless capability with power output controlled from the camera. It can also be used on camera in a hot shoe. This model puts out 152 watt seconds and is variable from full to 1/128th power.

I did a full review of the flash on my blog. Go to http://foto-gizmo.blogspot.com/2013/06/this-cheetah-runs-bare-bulb-photography.html if you are interested in learning more.




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Jun 28, 2013 at 04:54 PM
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p.1 #2 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


It's a nice product and the newer one, the 360, is even more powerful. Now if they only cost about half as much...


Jun 28, 2013 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #3 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


True, they are not inexpensive, but if you add up the cost of the top of the line Canon or Nikon flashes, add a lithium battery pack and wireless capabilities, the Cheetah is actually cheaper. However, you do forego the TTL factor.


Jun 29, 2013 at 10:37 AM
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p.1 #4 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Purchased the CL-180 about 1 month ago. Great Product and Good value.
Solid - very well built and performs as advertised and reviewed.
Considering purchasing another CL-180 or CL-360?



Jun 29, 2013 at 09:00 PM
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p.1 #5 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Nicely done review, appreciate the effort. From looking at the Cheetah light on a stand attached to a battery, I'm wondering exactly what is the advantage over a well-supported studio strobe like the Einstein? If you're willing to give up TTL and AA battery convenience, why not go all the way to the Einstein and get two more stops of power plus very deep support?


Jun 30, 2013 at 09:26 PM
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p.1 #6 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Batty_F wrote:
...From looking at the Cheetah light on a stand attached to a battery, I'm wondering exactly what is the advantage over a well-supported studio strobe like the Einstein?


Flexibility.

You can use a Cheetah Light on a stand, on a flash bracket, or in the camera's hot shoe; the Enstein isn't well suited for the latter two.

Ideally, of course, one would have both; but that's not within everyone's budget.



Jul 01, 2013 at 12:19 AM
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p.1 #7 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Love these lights I have an 180 and 360. The power and portability and the fact that they are manual was a deciding factor for me.

this was soc, Nikon D800, iso 400, 60" shoot through bare bulb,
PW TT1 and CL remote on camera
flash and TT5 on a stand directly behind me high@45 degrees.



Jul 01, 2013 at 01:51 AM
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p.1 #8 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Does anyone know the t.1 times for these? David Hobby made made a comment recently saying he wouldn't consider them because the long t.1 time meant even at 1/250 some of the flash was getting clipped. This seems to be a fate of many of the more powerful chinese flashes.


Jul 01, 2013 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #9 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Batty_F wrote:
Nicely done review, appreciate the effort. From looking at the Cheetah light on a stand attached to a battery, I'm wondering exactly what is the advantage over a well-supported studio strobe like the Einstein? If you're willing to give up TTL and AA battery convenience, why not go all the way to the Einstein and get two more stops of power plus very deep support?


Thank you for your comment. I only review gear I buy for my use and pay for out of pocket. I do not get anything supplied to me for testing and I am unbiased in my appraisals. I do however, love this flash, and I have given it the highest rating of any item I have tested to date, so yes, I am now a fan of Cheetah.

I am not familiar with or have ever used the Einstein, my field strobe is the Profoto Acute B600. The Cheetahs are not a replacement for high power strobes, yet they are flexible, small and useful in a variety of situations as you can see from the photo posted in this thread.

I use the Cheetah with my studio Profoto kit. I get a self powered third head for my kit at a cost less than a D4 head alone. As it is a lot smaller than a Profoto head as a bare bulb, I can get it closer to parts of a set and dial back the power to as low as 128th power. Like I said, flexible.

Cheetah offers a plethora of light modifiers. I'm awaiting arrival of the 19" beauty dish octabox. It will be interesting to compare it to the Wescott Rapid Box Octa (26") that I reviewed on my blog earlier. I'll post that review in a few weeks.

I am not sure what you mean by deep support, if you are referring to customer service, Ed at Cheetah is among the best.






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Profoto soft box main, Cheetah bare bulb fill



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Jul 01, 2013 at 12:29 PM
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p.1 #10 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Mark_L wrote:
Does anyone know the t.1 times for these? David Hobby made made a comment recently saying he wouldn't consider them because the long t.1 time meant even at 1/250 some of the flash was getting clipped. This seems to be a fate of many of the more powerful chinese flashes.



Who is David Hobby?



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p.1 #11 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


He is the owner of the popular Strobist blog! I works a LOT with OCF especially outdoors.


Jul 01, 2013 at 02:00 PM
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Found where I read it,
In the comments http://strobist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/quick-hands-on-100-polaroid-pl135-bare.html

The Cheetah is a rebrand of the Godox, (the original manufacturer). They secured the rights to sell it exclusively in the US, and got to rebrand it.

As I said above, I think for the money you can buy a much more powerful and versatile flash. The warranty situation is a little unclear, but Cheetah is said to be standing behind it. (I prefer a factory warranty, FWIW.)

In addition to the price (Einsteins kill it for not much more $$) the t.1 times at full power are such to where you cannot contain the pulse in a 250th of a sec. Most
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Jul 01, 2013 at 04:31 PM
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p.1 #13 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


@aboudd Interesting, thanks. By deep support I meant not only the manufacturer's ongoing backing of the product, but also the Einstein is popular enough for quite a few third parties to make accessories for it, like mounting rings, etc. I believe the 19-inch octabox you mentioned is custom designed just for the Cheetah light since it's kind of its own thing and not yet widely known enough to have third-party support.



Jul 01, 2013 at 08:43 PM
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p.1 #14 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Mark_L wrote:
Found where I read it,
In the comments http://strobist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/quick-hands-on-100-polaroid-pl135-bare.html



Oh well, Just his HO and actually you can push against sun at full power!
I tried the Einstein and MC2 thingy before too bulky for me to carry around. I have a set of profoto D1 500's also, I may sell and get two more CL-360's!



Jul 01, 2013 at 10:20 PM
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p.1 #15 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


I'm with you. I have one CL-360 on order. With that, the CL-180 aI can cover almost everything I need to in a small lightweight package. If I need a little more push, I'll bring my Profoto Acute 600B with me. Actually, I cannot remember the last time I used it.

I'm heading out to Park City Utah on Wednesday for the holiday. I'm taking my Canon kit and the CL-180. I'm going to challenge the sun with it! ;-)

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Jul 01, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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I'm with you. I have one CL-360 on order. With that, the CL-180 aI can cover almost everything I need to in a small lightweight package. If I need a little more push, I'll bring my Profoto Acute 600B with me. Actually, I cannot remember the last time I used it.

I'm heading out to Park City Utah on Wednesday for the holiday. I'm taking my Canon kit and the CL-180. I'm going to challenge the sun with it! ;-)



Did you purchase the CellsII for HSS? I never do HSS so its not a big deal for me as other have indicated.



Jul 02, 2013 at 12:46 AM
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p.1 #17 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


a2rob wrote:
Love these lights I have an 180 and 360. The power and portability and the fact that they are manual was a deciding factor for me.

this was soc, Nikon D800, iso 400, 60" shoot through bare bulb,
PW TT1 and CL remote on camera
flash and TT5 on a stand directly behind me high@45 degrees.



I'm easily confused and a lighting newb. You're triggering the CL-180 fitted with the CL remote using a PW on camera? Didn't realize that PWs will trigger the CL remotes ...



Jul 02, 2013 at 10:57 PM
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p.1 #18 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


I'm not sure what Rob is using. I am using the CL-180 with the Cheetah transmitter on the camera and the receiver on the flash itself.


Jul 02, 2013 at 11:24 PM
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Mike Tuomey wrote:
I'm easily confused and a lighting newb. You're triggering the CL-180 fitted with the CL remote using a PW on camera? Didn't realize that PWs will trigger the CL remotes ...


I am triggering the CL-360 with the PW flex system.
The TT1 is mounted on camera as with the CL remote on top of it.
The flash is mounted on the TT5 on stand. I have a pc cord connecting these two.

I use the L-358 with the wireless module installed to trigger and get an accurate reading.










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Jul 03, 2013 at 03:26 AM
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p.1 #20 · Cheetah CL-180 bare-bulb flash


Thanks, Rob! Much clearer now - nice solution to enable flash metering. Pics much appreciated also!


Jul 03, 2013 at 02:56 PM
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