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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


D3s or D4 if you can afford it. They're built for speed (FPS, ISO, and focusing acquisition), the files have enough resolution for large prints (if you don't need/want the D800's rez for massive prints), and they are built to weather the elements (unlike the D7000/D7100).

I'd keep a D7100 in the bag for those times that FX just isn't enough reach, because if you can afford these lenses and bodies, what's another $1000?



Jun 28, 2013 at 02:24 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


allstarimaging wrote:
I was expecting more votes for the DX body D7000 due to the "you can never have to much reach" mentality. For the dollars maybe a D800 with a D7000 backup is the way to go. I'm usually not into ripping off 9 FPS even when I shot a lot of pro sports. I tend to be more deliberate and I really try not to take a ton of shots when I shoot.
Jack


Sound like what you really want is a D800.

I have had both the D7000 and just traded the D7100 for a D800e.
4fps is all I ever needed no matter what Sport I shot.
Even High Speed MotorSports at Laguna Seca require panning skill much more than frame rate.

Little birds in flight is a different thing.
I am pretty sure I would want a D4 in CH mode and continuous focus for that,
because nothing else has worked very well for me.



Jun 28, 2013 at 02:46 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Although I'm just a birder, I honestly don't thing there's anything better wildlife body than the D800. Seriously. It has decent high ISO performance, gobs of resolution to support heavy cropping for either reach or perspective and still supports decent sized prints, and has enough speed for most everything except for birds/animals in flight. To me, the D800 provides more flexibility than any other camera on your list.


Jun 28, 2013 at 04:36 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


not a birdie in flight, but have to say that the D800's AF is up to the task..
taken with the D800, 400 2.8 plus 1.7 TC







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Jun 28, 2013 at 04:45 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Hi Michael,
That fly shot is nuts...actually trying take that one or was it just flying by and you caught him in the frame?
Jack



Jun 28, 2013 at 05:23 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Here are a couple shots where 10 FPS made the difference. The shot just before and just after - in both cases - wasn't nearly as good. I honestly don't think either would be possible with slower FPS. High FPS isn't just to get the shot - it's to get more choices and more chances of having that perfect moment. When you're shooting slower FPS (like 4) you simply don't know what you've missed in (the other 6 frames you would have had)

PS - On the polar bear shot, he was VERY active and pretty much everyone else was dealing with maxed out buffers when this shot happend













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Jun 28, 2013 at 05:36 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


thanks Jack,
it was taken intentionally...
You know I have always loved the 400 2.8 and teamed up with the D800 the focus accuracy and tracking is just plain crazy good..





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Jun 28, 2013 at 05:37 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Steve Perry wrote:
Here are a couple shots where 10 FPS made the difference. The shot just before and just after - in both cases - wasn't nearly as good. I honestly don't think either would be possible with slower FPS. High FPS isn't just to get the shot - it's to get more choices and more chances of having that perfect moment. When you're shooting slower FPS (like 4) you simply don't know what you've missed in (the other 6 frames you would have had)



That makes a lot of sense, I had never thought of it that way.



Jun 28, 2013 at 05:38 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


All I can say is that I don't shoot birds. Landscapes is my thing.. they don't move. Ever. I just received my D4 and these are my first shots with it:








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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


DontShoot,
I love that first shot, that's large print material...
Love the shadow of the bird at the bottom with the bird on the top, awesome



Jun 28, 2013 at 10:05 PM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


dontshoot - pretty freakin' good - esp for a first run!


Jun 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Don't shoot--Is that bird eating a cheese puff ball?


Jun 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


I own the D3s, D4 and D800e and have shot wildlife with them all on all the super teles. My experience is that when the action gets fast I really missed the FPS of the D3s/D4 when I was shooting my D800e as well as the high ISO performance when shooting at dawn and dusk. The slower FPS requires you to really adjust your approach to faster action sequences. Having said that the D800e gives you some really nice big files to work with.

I have to say that I agree with Steve Perry about what you might miss with slower FPS as sometimes it is just the next frame that makes the difference.

I think the bottom line is that with the bodies you are considering you can't go wrong.



Jun 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Creative Edge wrote:
DontShoot,
I love that first shot, that's large print material...
Love the shadow of the bird at the bottom with the bird on the top, awesome


Thanks!!

Steve Perry wrote:
dontshoot - pretty freakin' good - esp for a first run!


Thank you!

allstarimaging wrote:
Don't shoot--Is that bird eating a cheese puff ball?


I think you're right.. it swooped in on a picnic table and took something. At first I thought it was a fruit but you might be right about the cheez ball



Jun 29, 2013 at 12:30 AM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


I rented a 400 2.8 recently for a conference shooting gig. My god that thing is heavy and cumbersome to move around with..

Michael, how on earth do you shoot wildlife with that pig? Seriously, how do you carry it? What kind of case? Do you use a tripod or monopod?

It wore me out to use it indoors shooting concerts.

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Jun 29, 2013 at 03:04 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Thank you for the replies. For now i've decided to go with the d800. Resolution over speed. Should be taking delivery of a very nice used 600 this week. Looking forward to getting back out shooting
Jack



Jun 30, 2013 at 02:05 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · What Nikon body on Nikon super tele lenses????


Jack, it's not just the resolution. You get wonderful DR at low ISO and that will let you retrieve very clean shadow details even if you underexpose a little to be sure of keeping highlight details or to keep the shutter speeds up.

Switch to the D4 in any of the following cases:
- work that needs moderate to high ISO to maintain sufficient shutter speed
- work that combines low light and the need to shoot handheld
- inclement weather or environment conditions (sand/dust/salt/fog/rain)
- you really need high frame rate

Avoid setting the D800 to crop mode. I reckon it is better to give yourself flexibility for framing the subject loosely if it can move or change shape very quickly (e.g. a perched bird spreads its wings and changes from portrait orientation to landscape orientation). And if you do get in close enough then the extra resolution is very impressive.

- Alan



Jul 04, 2013 at 05:44 PM
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