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Fingerstyle78 wrote:
Are there no Sigma's that fit the bill? I've always preferred them over Tamron and have had good luck in the past with their 50mm.


Sigma has their 120-400, 150-500 and 50-500. They'll unfortunately cost much more than the Tamron and I personally think the Tamron is a better value.

You don't hear too much gloating around these boards of the Sigma 70-300, mainly the Nikon and Tamron version.



Jun 25, 2013 at 11:35 PM
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Fingerstyle78 wrote:
Are there no Sigma's that fit the bill? I've always preferred them over Tamron and have had good luck in the past with their 50mm.


The Sigma 120-300/2.8 OS is a phenomenal lens for the price... however, it'll add a zero to your price limit.

I have a Nikon 70-300VR (before I knew about the Tamron), and I love it for a travel lens. It's a great lens for the money, a wonderful value. However, it's not in the same league as the 300/4 or 300/2.8.... not even close. (but you're not paying anything close to their prices either). As I'm sure you already know.

I'd say a 70-300 VR/VC is a great lens to get, even with an upgrade in the future. I have nice long glass, but there are many times where it's inappropriate to bring/use them. The 70-300 VR/VC shines as being an affordable, lightweight, easily carried, always-have-it-with-you tele.



Jun 26, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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ckcarr wrote:
OK, now just a minute...

You just bought a D600 and are now concerned about getting an "affordable" 300mm for $300? You just did it backwards. But, it can be corrected. If you want stellar wildlife with that camera, you NEED at least the Nikon 300mm AF-S f/4.0 with a 1.4 or 1.7 tc. Especially if you live in Alaska. Because it has a nicely positioned collar which you can replace with a Kirk or Really Right Stuff one for oh... $135 to $210 or so. For rock solid tripod mounted shots. So, for a measly $1,100 (used) you will get
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Yeah I cheaped out on the Samyang 14mm too, but I have used the Nikon 14-24 as well and the $1300 I saved on refurbished copy of that lens I spent on a refurbed D600 instead. Anyways mostly what I do is landscape and night photography. But summer has me wanting a 300 for wildlife. It's not that I don't WANT to spend the money....I just don't have it. I'm tapped unless I cut back on weekend trips, which is the main reason I live in Alaska anyways. It's a compromise. However I know there is value in the $300 range, especially in a manual focus model, I just want to be sure I'm getting the sharpest for the money so that I can make prints. Until now I've only sold aurora prints. If I start selling some of wildlife shots too I'll upgrade later. As of now I can't justify it.



Jun 26, 2013 at 01:15 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · best value 300mm for D600


How about a Nikon 70-300 4-5.6 ED for around $150

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-AF-70-300mm-ED-FX-Lens-w-Hood-US-Model-Mint-/251293765093?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item3a82468de5



Jun 26, 2013 at 05:50 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · best value 300mm for D600


In that case Iīd rather take:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/mint-NIKON-AF-NIKKOR-75-300mm-f4-5-5-6-telephoto-macro-LENS-D200-D300-D2X-90-D3-/290934957699?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item43bd132683

Itīs slower focusing but the optical quality is quite good.
Itīs a bit bigger then the other suggested lenses though



Jun 26, 2013 at 06:09 AM
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MDoc9523 wrote:
How about a Nikon 70-300 4-5.6 ED for around $150

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-AF-70-300mm-ED-FX-Lens-w-Hood-US-Model-Mint-/251293765093?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item3a82468de5


That is exactly what I'm looking for right now. Thanks for the heads up.



Jun 26, 2013 at 06:15 AM
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I have used that 70-300 4-5.6 ED long time ago, ok with it when I was using film... didn't like it on DSLR ( 6MP DX back then). I found it quite strange that use of any filter seems to degrade IQ significantly (I don't usually worry about filters degrade IQ).

VR one is much better, but it seems a bit lacking (for landscape) on D600. But overall it is still quite good.

I'm currently eyeing over AFD 300 f4 (drop-in filter/82mm filter is an issue) and AIS 300 f4.5 (cheap, relatively lightweight and takes 72mm or 77 via step-up filter is a plus). The AFS is nice but it lacks VR so I am not willing to spend too much on it.



Jun 26, 2013 at 04:54 PM
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hijazist wrote:
At 300mm I found the Tamron to be a tad sharper than the Nikon.


I had the 70-300 VR and then got the Tamron 70-300 VC to compare. Still have the Tamron.

AF is a tad slower but IQ is better, at least better than the copy of the 70-300 VR that I had.



Jun 26, 2013 at 05:16 PM
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That's a very good thing to add.

I've tested several Tamrons AND Nikon 70-300 samples. On the weighted average, the Tamron is slightly better.

But roll out the statistics... In real life, let's say that if you compare a 100 pairs of Tammy/Nikkor 70-300, the Tamron will win maybe 60-65% of the matches. In long-zoom lenses, sample variation is huge.

BTW, I also still use the Tamron 70-300VC for the exact same reasons - small, reasonably sharp, very good stabilization. VERY sharp considering the price. But not even close to a 300/4AFS.



Jun 26, 2013 at 07:18 PM
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Yes, back when I had the 70-300VR I had to go through 3 copies to find one that was not optically defective in some way (de-centering mostly, but one was just plain soft, and one of these the VR was not working well). The one I finally settled on was still slightly decentered, but it was not a big deal on my D700. Now I have a D800 and the 70-300VR just could not keep up, so it got sold.


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Well,

I don't think anyone's brought it up, but consider the OLD 80-400mm "D" lens. If you use a tripod, and have the benefit of time when shooting it can be very nice. I had one and got respectable photographs. You can find these used for around $725-750

I've also had the 300mm f/4 - a super, tack sharp lens. I kept my 1.7tc on it and the thing was flawless, and delivered beautiful wildlife images. But, more money still.

Then I bought the new 80-400 "g" lens, and the same result. Fantastic images, plus the benefit of a zoom. Of course a LOT more money.

Now, throughout this all, I've had a 70-300mm vr Nikon lens (think I've had 5 copies) as a backup/light zoom. So, when it catches focus properly it's good/excellent, but I seem to miss a lot of shots also with it on both my D800e and my D7100.. It used to work extremely well on other bodies, like my D5100, D300s, D700. It's just not delivering consistently on these newer cameras. When I had my D600 I don't think I ever tried it so I can't comment there.

So, just know what you're pairing with the D600. If you get another chance at the bison, or more likely a different opportunity in Alaska, you want to be ready. You won't be thinking of money then. But, I can relate because you have to stay within a budget. However, with lenses, often times you do get what you pay for. Especially with wildlife.

One final thing. I know money is tight for you, but consider this. Buying a quality used/pre-owned lens for a good price means you can sell it later for almost the same that you paid. So, it's like a rental for the time you are in Alaska. Take good care of it and sell when your done.



Jun 26, 2013 at 09:37 PM
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I paid $152.50 for the 300mm lens on the right... but you have to turn the focusing ring...


I appreciate MF is not for everyone, but for many applications it works very well and many of these old lenses are a dream to use. These two lenses are converted pre-AI lenses made about forty years ago. They perform magnificently.

The 300 f/4.5 H AI'd arrived in the mail this afternoon.



Jun 26, 2013 at 09:49 PM
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look into sigma 300/4 macro APO as well.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=129&sort=7&cat=38&page=1

can be very hard to find but excellent lens for the money as well. its also AF-D lens so a little bonus



Jun 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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Yup, that Sigma should be on the short list as well. One of the first really surprising Sigmas. Nowadays they're just as good as any brand lens, but back then this was astounding.


Jun 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM
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theSuede wrote:
I've tested several Tamrons AND Nikon 70-300 samples. On the weighted average, the Tamron is slightly better.

But roll out the statistics... In real life, let's say that if you compare a 100 pairs of Tammy/Nikkor 70-300, the Tamron will win maybe 60-65% of the matches. In long-zoom lenses, sample variation is huge.

BTW, I also still use the Tamron 70-300VC for the exact same reasons - small, reasonably sharp, very good stabilization. VERY sharp considering the price. But not even close to a 300/4AFS.


Since both lenses are pretty much identical in design and made by the same manufacturer, any perceived differences in performance would be due to individual sample variation or poor testing methods.



Jun 27, 2013 at 07:36 PM
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ytwong wrote:
I have used that 70-300 4-5.6 ED long time ago, ok with it when I was using film... didn't like it on DSLR ( 6MP DX back then). I found it quite strange that use of any filter seems to degrade IQ significantly (I don't usually worry about filters degrade IQ).

VR one is much better, but it seems a bit lacking (for landscape) on D600. But overall it is still quite good.

I'm currently eyeing over AFD 300 f4 (drop-in filter/82mm filter is an issue) and AIS 300 f4.5 (cheap, relatively lightweight and takes 72mm or 77 via step-up filter is
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I got a good deal on the 70-300 (159 bucks) and that will hold me over until long enough to figure out how much I want to spend on an upgrade. Come winter (which is most of the time here) I don't have much use for a zoom outside of a cold moose. VR would be nice, but I shoot from a tripod 99% of the time anyways. For now I'm pretty happy with the functionality/value I'm getting. It should get me through the rest of summer.

By winter I'll probably be Jonesing for the Nikon 14-24 that I've managed to put off buying so far. Sharp stars and lens coma are my problems during winter. The Samyang 14mm is nice, but there is an awful lot of distortion. I'm hoping the jump to FX will help that issue a bit as well as sharpness vs my D7000.

Thanks for all the responses.



Jun 27, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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ckcarr wrote:
Well,

I don't think anyone's brought it up, but consider the OLD 80-400mm "D" lens. If you use a tripod, and have the benefit of time when shooting it can be very nice. I had one and got respectable photographs. You can find these used for around $725-750

I've also had the 300mm f/4 - a super, tack sharp lens. I kept my 1.7tc on it and the thing was flawless, and delivered beautiful wildlife images. But, more money still.

Then I bought the new 80-400 "g" lens, and the same result. Fantastic images, plus the benefit of a zoom. Of course
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I always end up selling everything, that's one thing I know. I'll end up selling this D600 too. I prefer the 800 layout and the 800E seems like the perfect camera for my needs.

Anyways I've got my eyes on a lot of the lenses you mentioned. Those would be logical next steps for me before eventually ending up with a long 2.8. CAn't afford that right now though. Not if I want to continue salmon fishing!



Jun 27, 2013 at 10:28 PM
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Be interesting to see how that lens holds up on the D600. Here's a review from back in the D200 days.

http://www.photozone.de/reviews/249-nikkor-af-70-300mm-f4-56-d-ed-review--test-report



Jun 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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ckcarr wrote:
Be interesting to see how that lens holds up on the D600. Here's a review from back in the D200 days.

http://www.photozone.de/reviews/249-nikkor-af-70-300mm-f4-56-d-ed-review--test-report


I like mine ($275 on ebay) - all on D600



















above image in full rez



Jun 28, 2013 at 02:43 AM
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Looks pretty good!

$275 though? That's the vr version range almost. As a matter of fact, I bought one of the "D" versions not to many years ago for $108.50



Jun 28, 2013 at 03:14 AM
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