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robby521
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


i shoot a lot of sports,day and night and inside.have D3s.like to shoot other things like eagles and just whatever but my main thing is sports.softball,baseball,football,track,volleyball,basketball and soccer this year.


Jun 24, 2013 at 04:43 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


From where do you shoot?
If you are close to the players, a 300 2.8 might even be too long and if you are further away a 400 2.8 might be to short.
You probably also have a 70-200 2.8, in that case I would go with the 400 2.8.
Maybe use a 1.4x TC to use on the 70-200 to have the reach of 70-280, for longer reach you will have the 400 2.8. But it really comes up to what you think you need.
For eagles, a 300 is often not long enough, a 400 + 1.4TC would serve much better.



Jun 24, 2013 at 07:50 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


If you are pitch-side then a 400/2.8 is the standard pro-shooters lens (rugby, soccer, US football) a 500mm (as I have found out) being too long any time the players are in your 'quarter' of the pitch. You can easily add any TC to that to get whatever mm you require.

You will need a shorter lens on another body too, 70-200/2.8 being the standard but I've found even that too long if you are truly pitch-side and the play gets close to you.

For court games the 400/2.8 is too long unless you are sitting further back. Court-side even a 24-70 could be considered ! It all depends on where you are shooting from. Again a 2 camera/lens set-up is best.



Jun 24, 2013 at 08:04 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


I used a 300 2.8 with my D3 last year for sports and moved up to a 400 2.8 with a D3s. I would recommend the 400 especially if you have a 70-200 on another body. Otherwise I'd suggest a 300 & a teleconverter. Both the 300 & 400 accept teleconverters pretty well. I use a 1.4 TC for the 400 and the results are pretty sharp. The same goes for when I used a 1.7 TC with a 300 2.8.


Jun 24, 2013 at 08:37 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


I do a lot of sports with DX and the 300 f/2.8 ... so on FX I would go the 400 f/2.8 for sure.


Jun 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


If you can afford the 400 f/2.8 it is a no brainer.

Grant




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Jun 24, 2013 at 01:07 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


sorry i forgot to put i do have a 70-200 and i also have a 24-70.i am able to get on court,field and just about where ever i want for all home games.



Jun 24, 2013 at 03:52 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


it's dependent on the sport and your available positioning. I have a 300/2.8 but never use it for Ultimate Disc. a 70-200/2.8 w/1.4 or 1.7 tc. my movement and that setup covers a regulation field which is about 120x40 yards.




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Jun 24, 2013 at 04:17 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


Conceding that 2 cameras and 2 lenses are the best way to go, what do you do if you want to consider just one camera and one lens?

The answer then has to be the 70-200 f/2.8 with the 1.4 extender. Doing it that way, there will be parts of the field in outdoor sports that will be beyond your reach, but (for most field sports except American football) they will also be the parts most likely to have line-of-sight obstructions between you and the action. No matter where you stand, the closer the action gets, the less likely there is to be someone irrelevant blocking your shot. Which makes a long lens like the 400mm kind of limiting, because it's going to be at it's best on the parts of the field where someone distant is more likely to be obstructed by a ref or a stray player who isn't part of the action. Even the 300mm is often going to be too long for the closer parts of the field where you are most likely to get unobstructed shots of the action.

But the zoom gets a big piece of the best of both worlds. With the extender on, if the action is coming right up the sideline, you can step back a bit and catch it at 100mm. Or you can zoom out to 280 to cover at least a third of a soccer field, maybe a bit more, when the action is more distant. When you go indoors, you take the extender off, and you're set for basketball, hockey, what have you, with f/2.8.

It's not the way to go if you intend big-time sports coverage at the highest level—there you need two cameras plus a long prime and a zoom. But for most people, most of the time, the zoom with the extender will provide many great keepers from every event.

By the way, using my 70-200 f/2.8 IS II with the 1.4 extender II, and my 5D III to shoot soccer, lacrosse, track and field, and basketball, the autofocus does not seem to be challenged in the least. At track meets I count on shooting from the end of the pit, and getting multiple sharp in-the-air shots of each long jumper coming straight at the camera.



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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


Back when I had a 300, almost every time I used it I found myself wanting more reach.


Jun 24, 2013 at 06:46 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


If you can afford it, I'd go with the 400. You might find more uses for a 300, but your 70-200 with a teleconverter or even on a crop sensor camera will get you what the 300 can do. The 400 just separates your subjects so much better from the backgrounds. The bokeh is just so creamy. It is a beast to carry, but well worth it.


Jun 24, 2013 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


i use my 70-200 with 1.4 teleconverter on my D7000 and D3s.i leave the 1.4 on for everything but inside sports and shows.


Jun 24, 2013 at 07:12 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


for daytime sports the 200-400 f4 is hard to beat, I have the 400 2.8 and the 300 2.8 as well. I use the 200-400 90 % of the time for field sports during the day. 300 2.8 for indoor ice hockey and the 400 2.8 once my ISO gets over 6400


Jun 26, 2013 at 01:14 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


Good advice here, but given the broad range of subjects, you will have to either compromise or get both.

I would rent before you buy. Consider renting a 300, 400, and 200-400 and see what you think. Looks like you also need a new space bar and caps lock on your keyboard. : )

~Ted



Jun 26, 2013 at 01:59 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


rent and decide for yourself, rather than spend a bunch money based on what internet people tell you.


Jun 27, 2013 at 02:47 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


picboy wrote:
rent and decide for yourself, rather than spend a bunch money based on what internet people tell you.


Hands on with these lenses is a good idea, the 300 2.8 and 400 2.8 are two completely different animals.



Jun 27, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8


put the 70-200 on the D3s and 400mm f/2.8 on your new D4.

NAS told me that you need both to do the job right.



Jun 28, 2013 at 02:00 PM





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