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Archive 2013 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.
  
 
MaxBerlin
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


I tested mine several times over the last year and it was in and out of service several times. Turns out there was an internal alignment issue caused by the guiderails being fractured. The lens front element also had some play in the fore/aft axis. I sent it to Tocad (last year for service for these by the way AFAIK) and a few weeks later it's back and tests as good as the MTF charts show it should. 2500-ish at 35-50-70 at 5.6 in unsharpened jpgs.








Jun 19, 2013 at 09:46 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.





Jun 20, 2013 at 02:52 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Good to hear it is working well for you.


Jun 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


It's a great lens - amazingly sharp as most of the CY Zeiss were. I didn't use mine as much as I should have, preferring the 28 and 85 most of the time. It has been described as a series of primes in a zoom !

Have fun with it !



Jun 20, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


With you there 100% Frogfish - I wish i could be as 'grateful' as I should be but with already having all of the fast glass in Zeiss from 21-85 (except the 1.2 55) I am prone to use those and leave this on the shelf. More than anything - the rotating front keeps me from wanting to use it in the day, and 3.4 min f-stop keeps me from wanting to use it at night.

This all (above) sounds really arrogant doesn't it? My worldview makes me think I'll be born into the 3rd world and be happy to have a kit lens on a NEX3 in my next life. Probably learn my lesson then....



Jun 20, 2013 at 07:23 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Not arrogant. Just real, and now. Next time around, you might yearn for a bag of crayons. You could be just as happy, or even more so...


Jun 20, 2013 at 08:19 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Pff, give me fast lens and I take it over slow anyday (until I will be old). Tho if I dont use something I simply sell it..

I think you would need to do something much worse to make such lovely next reincarnation.



Jun 20, 2013 at 10:13 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Methodical careful shooting at F8 on a tripod has it's place.


Jun 20, 2013 at 10:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Diglloyd says I shouldn't go above f4 on the NEX7. Just got back from doing some initial tests on the Zeiss 135 APO and the 100 Makro. I'll be making a post later tonight.


Jun 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


FlyPenFly wrote:
Methodical careful shooting at F8 on a tripod has it's place.

A tripod does help with night shots.
At F3.4 or F4, last night:

Pietra di Bismantova by Johann D, on Flickr



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


MaxBerlin wrote:
Diglloyd says I shouldn't go above f4 on the NEX7. Just got back from doing some initial tests on the Zeiss 135 APO and the 100 Makro. I'll be making a post later tonight.


yeah, if you're just shooting things that are in a narrow place of focus with a decent lens f/4 is definitely the sharpest aperture. the drop off in sharpness from f/4 to f/5.6 is very noticeable in direct comparisons at 100%, without a direct comparison it's pretty hard to notice the drop in sharpness though. the drop in sharpness from f/4 to f/8 is really obvious though. problem is there are a lot of situations where f/4 just doesn't give enough dof. having what needs to be in focus in focus is a lot more important than maximal sharpness for me.



Jun 21, 2013 at 01:11 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Agreed sebboh. I no longer Imatest over 5.6 - it's a waste of time. At the same time it's tough to explain this shot taken at f13 on a NEX5n out of a moving car.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zeissgeist/8565810031/sizes/o/in/photolist-e3W1TR/



Jun 21, 2013 at 01:36 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Johann, how do you like your 100-300? The MTFs (10,20,40)look pretty good for it up to 200 but 300 looks pretty soft on the 40 line.


Jun 21, 2013 at 01:39 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


At 300 it is not as sharp, but still very much sufficient (I don't feel bad about going to 300). Distortion is very noticeable though when you have straight lines in the periphery of the image. Fixable in Lightroom when it matters.


Jun 21, 2013 at 01:52 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


Avoid the 300 f4 Tessar. It's not very good for digital. My 180 Sonnar with a Mutar performs a lot better.


Jun 21, 2013 at 02:11 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


It should be really sharp at f8, thats if MTFs from Zeiss are right.

Some Zeiss lens have quite interesting resolution characteristics over F-stops, especially zooms tend to be sharpest wide-open and than at f8. Thats if those measurments are right. If they are, it makes quite sense I think..

Well you can try it..



Jun 21, 2013 at 02:14 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


My loose criteria for sharpness - 10 cycles above 92, 20 cycles above 85 and 40 cycles above 65. My 300 never does that and the 100-300 doesn't do it at 300 either but does well at 200 and <.

The 35-70 dances near those lines most of the time.

http://lenses.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_us/service/download_center/contax_yashica.html




Jun 21, 2013 at 02:39 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


The 100-300 appears to do better than the 180. 135 and 100 so for $900ish you save some cash and some weight and still have a 300 that's better than the 300.




Jun 21, 2013 at 02:40 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · A sincere apology. The c/y Zeiss 35/70 is a good lens.


The 100-300 is unusual in being essentially aperture-agnostic at the short end. Sensibly, the 300mm end is good in the centre, less so elsewhere. Most of my CY lenses are not into full stride at F4, I seldom shoot below F5.6 and prefer f8. The old 'two stops down' rule agrees with CZ MTF because both are generally correct.

The 35-70 is perhaps fragile but it is 20 years old and turns out excellent photographs at a rate that puts many modern lenses to shame, below F3.4 of course. And speaking photographically I hasten to add, something of a blasphemy on latter day gear fora.



Jun 22, 2013 at 04:27 AM





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