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So in an effort to simplify my kit and just shoot more I sold my x100 and Canon Crop Gear for a 5D3. I have always been a prime guy but the 24-70L ll looked so good I sold my 50L and purchased it. Currently this is all I have. I LOVE the new 24-70, it has made me a convert. That said, I do a little studio shooting in my house (mostly for my 4-year old, friends and fun). The 70mm is limiting for this so I'm looking for something longer.

I also do some nature/wildlife photography, so I would like a lens I can use for both. I think the obvious answer is the 70-200L ll, but I really do not have the cash for that right now. Do you guys have any advice for a lens in the $1k or less range that would be great for dual-duty? I was initially thinking 135L but it is a bit short for wildlife and almost too(!) sharp for the studio. The other thing I was thinking is just grab an 85 1.8 for the studio and a decent 70-300 for wildlife (something like the Tamron VC which seams decent). I'm just not sure the 85 is long enough for the "flattening" effect in the studio. Am I over-thinking this? Thoughts? Any advice would be appreciated; paralysis by analysis is setting in



Jun 18, 2013 at 05:27 PM
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kjcramer wrote:
...The other thing I was thinking is just grab an 85 1.8 for the studio and a decent 70-300 for wildlife (something like the Tamron VC which seams decent). I'm just not sure the 85 is long enough for the "flattening" effect in the studio....

That sounds like a good plan for now. When you want something longer than 85 in your studio, use the 70-300. With focal lengths over 100 mm in a limited space, you're likely looking at head shots or head and shoulders. Most of the time you'll probably want to shoot at f/8-11 for that sort of thing. If the Tamron doesn't focus close enough, add an extension tube.



Jun 18, 2013 at 05:59 PM
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With the 5diii and the 24-70ii, I doubt you'd be happy with iq any less than what a 70-200 will give you. Get the f/4 is.


Jun 18, 2013 at 07:37 PM
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Get the 70-300L.

My favorite lens. There's nothing you can't like about it.



Jun 19, 2013 at 02:56 AM
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70-200 f4. There are many here who swear by this lens, and unless you need (NEED) f2.8, this lens will do all you want. Perhaps even more so with the 5D3 high ISO performance.

Paul



Jun 19, 2013 at 03:26 AM
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Paulthelefty wrote:
70-200 f4. There are many here who swear by this lens, and unless you need (NEED) f2.8, this lens will do all you want. Perhaps even more so with the 5D3 high ISO performance.

Paul


Everyone here keeps saying that but just because you have an extra stop of ISO does not mean it is of an acceptable quality - every stop of ISO you increase at the tail end of the ISO range equates to more and more significant losses of color and contrast and the ability to fix either in post.

That said, I have never used the f/4 IS so I cannot comment on it. I hear it is lightweight, great for traveling, and sharp. Here is a quick comparison between the f/4 IS and the f/2.8 IS:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=404&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=3&API=0&LensComp=687&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0

My photography lives in dark concert venues and events in rooms that have similar lighting to an 18th century french dungeon so it was an easy choice for my usage.



Jun 19, 2013 at 04:01 AM
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Original 70-200 f/2.8 IS is a good lens and definitely less expensive than version II.


Jun 19, 2013 at 04:40 AM
 

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So when you say studio I assume you also have studio type lighting. If so I assume you're also shooting around 5.6 normally. If so the 70-200 f4 and f4IS, the later a bit more than your stated budget, would work and give you some flexibility. However IMHO 200mm is very short for wildlife on FF, so the 70-300L may be a better choice and would work fine in a studio setting although that's also over your budget. The 85 1.8 is a cracker of a lens especially for the price. I own both the 85 and 70-200 f4IS, both are awesome in my opinion. Fwiw I originally bought my 70-200 while shooting crop, had I to do it again with a FF I'd probably opt for the 70-300L.


Jun 19, 2013 at 05:06 AM
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Another vote for the 70 300L. With lighting it'll work great for the portraits where you want longer than the 24 70. With your 24 70 it will give you the range all the way from 24 to 300. I have both it and the 70 200 IS II and admittedly IMHO the IQ is not equal to the 70 200, but it is very good. I use it for some wildlife (when I don't want to pack a 400mm as well.) Also for sports or action with the grandkids at the park, and I love it as a walk around lens for day trips with something small in the bag to grab for wider. It also focus's faster than the 100 400 and is small and light compared to it. End result for wild life is you are going to want the longest your wallet can handle. I would get the 70 300 now and add a 400L when I could.


Jun 19, 2013 at 05:22 AM
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Another vote for the 70-200 f:4.0. A really remarkable lens, if you can live with the speed limitation. Without IS, it is a steal. Also, if you need something longer, you can get a 1.4x multiplier


Jun 19, 2013 at 05:47 AM
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Elephant in the room:

Tamron 70-200/2.8 VC. Within range of the 70-200/4L IS, but faster, and sharper than the 70-200/2.8L Mk.1. Or at least reviews suggest, I'm looking forward to using/owning one.



Jun 19, 2013 at 05:53 AM
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70-200 II

Save up and get the right thing.



Jun 19, 2013 at 06:51 AM
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How bout a 100mm f/2 for the studio and 300mm f/4L with or without a 1.4x TC for wildlife? Roughly the same price as a 70-300L but a stop faster at 300mm. After using the 300 f/4 myself recently, it really seems like a bargain.


Jun 19, 2013 at 10:50 AM





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