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Dustin Gent
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · skipping the D600?


so thanks to the advice of the kind folks here, I am going to skip the D600. I made a thread a while back about trading my D700 for a D600, and *was* close to doing so. Glad I didn't.. kinda. I had a buddy who let me use the 600 for a bit a few weeks ago, and I appreciate the D700 even more now

So now I present a new question. The price difference between the D700 and D800E is about the same price as a 14-24mm (both used of course!). I have the Sammy 14mm that I am super happy with. Would you get the 14-24 and use it with the D700 or get the D800E and use the Samyang 14mm?

Obviously it isn't apples to oranges, as both lenses aren't the same FL. I am impressed with the DR of the D700, but again I shot with a 1Ds for 2-3 years and ISO 400 was not ideal, to say the least. I don't have D600 or D800 files to "open" my eyes yet, so I am leaning twords the 14-24.

Anyone been in this "situation" before? I may just end up getting a Samyang 24mm and be good for now (cheaper lol).






Jun 15, 2013 at 05:29 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · skipping the D600?


What's your heart telling you?


Jun 15, 2013 at 05:32 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · skipping the D600?


Probably to get another lens and keep the D700 - well that is what the wife is telling me with her dirty looks

Interesting tests here.. and the Samyang rates higher on the new sensors than when used on my D700.

DXO



Jun 15, 2013 at 05:37 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · skipping the D600?


What other lenses do you have? I don't think I'd want to just have a 14mm. If you are craving more MP why not look at the D7100 with a bunch of wide glass & mid range glass. While the 14-24 is awesome it is scarey & costs alot if you want to start using filters.

I liked the D700 but found it dated compared to my then D7k & especially now with the D4. I want a D800e for landscapes though, but won't trade glass for it



Jun 15, 2013 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · skipping the D600?


It depends on whether you are getting paid (i.e. weddings) or not, I think. I hate putting money into digital cameras--they lose value SO fast! Lenses seem to hold value much better. If you aren't getting paid for shots, why not take that money and put it on a trip to Iceland or Tiera del Fuego etc.? You'll end up with better shots than if you spent it on camera gear.


Kent in SD,
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Jun 15, 2013 at 05:54 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · skipping the D600?


I bought my D800 refurbished from Cameta just before Christmas. I got it and my test shot showed it was the 29th shutter actuation. It has a 1 year warranty, just like new.


Jun 15, 2013 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · skipping the D600?


A refurb D800 can be had for approx. $2399 and a D600 for $1599. I shot the D700 for 3yrs and went to a D600 for me it's about the files, sure body is not what I'd like but I see in the D600 I see better DR and a sharper file... if you cannot see the difference between the two then stay with the D700 and put your $ into lenses.


Jun 15, 2013 at 07:30 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · skipping the D600?


D600 is awesome compared to D700. I have no use for what the D800 offers beyond 24MP. So if I was you I'd sell the D700 while there are still people willing to pay a lot for these bodies and get a D600 refurb or new instead.

Unless you like to pound nails into walls with your camera body, you won't miss the weight and "build quality" of the overweight old camera. It's a tool - look at the dynamic range you get from the D600 sensor and that alone should have a landscape shooter like you drool. HDR in one shot. Love my 14mm Rokinon on the D600...







Jun 15, 2013 at 08:12 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · skipping the D600?


It's hard to answer your question without knowing you, so I'll ask:

What do you shoot? Do you love post processing? How fast is your computer? Do you print large? (if at all) Do you have a habit of cropping images in post?

If you shoot landscapes, love to post process, print large, crop a lot, love to manipulate images, you will love the D800. There is a HUGE difference between the D700 and D800 when it comes to DR and resolution. It might be perfect for your 14mm prime.

If you shoot PJ/event/reportage style, I think the D700 & 14-24 will be a better choice.



Jun 15, 2013 at 11:16 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · skipping the D600?


The auto white balance, high iso, and the dynamic range on the d600 is superior to the D700. Not to mention the lighter weight of the d600 and the quiet shutter all tilt in favor of the d600.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · skipping the D600?


I would rather have the D800e
even though I recognize the 14-24 is a better investment.
Of course, to have both is better yet.



Jun 16, 2013 at 03:25 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · skipping the D600?


DontShoot wrote:
It's hard to answer your question without knowing you, so I'll ask:

What do you shoot? Do you love post processing? How fast is your computer? Do you print large? (if at all) Do you have a habit of cropping images in post?

If you shoot landscapes, love to post process, print large, crop a lot, love to manipulate images, you will love the D800. There is a HUGE difference between the D700 and D800 when it comes to DR and resolution. It might be perfect for your 14mm prime.

If you shoot PJ/event/reportage style, I think the D700 & 14-24 will be
...Show more

+1. Hard to make a judgement without knowing what/how you shoot, and I'd agree with everything Don't Shoot says.



Jun 16, 2013 at 03:43 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · skipping the D600?


I shoot stuff like this.. Only last one was NOT taken with D700+Samyang.


http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Sl4Vrh7AJUE/UWDERbiRT5I/AAAAAAAAHw4/LLRi-Q-GcSA/s800/Hobbit-FallsRedux.jpg

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5fz-xlqzqpA/UXblFJnAtaI/AAAAAAAAH0c/FzNabemcC_8/s800/Columbia-Resting.jpg

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qJMTmktL7Gw/UZG9d48fJ_I/AAAAAAAAIFE/bRPo4Cst9Wo/s800/Lentic.jpg



Jun 16, 2013 at 03:49 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · skipping the D600?


Dustin,
those are magnificent shots. something tells me you could make any camera tick.
I am trying to make a decision similar to yours---good luck with your choice.



Jun 16, 2013 at 04:00 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · skipping the D600?


kentvinyard wrote:
Dustin,
those are magnificent shots. something tells me you could make any camera tick.
I am trying to make a decision similar to yours---good luck with your choice.


thanks, you are way too kind lol



Jun 16, 2013 at 04:08 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · skipping the D600?


Those shots are simply profound. I think someone of your skill would be better served with the nikon 14-24. Sell the samyang and invest that money into the fotodiox wonderpana kit. The 16-35mm f4 vr + Lee foundation kit would be another option.

Either way, you'll continue to produce wonderful stuff. Cheers.

Sebastian



Jun 16, 2013 at 04:26 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · skipping the D600?


The way I do wide angle landscapes like yours......... I'd take the D800 and 14mm, and use something else in the 20-24mm range.

But you could make an equally compelling case the other way ( assuming you're satisfied with the 14mm). It boils down to preference and if you want the 7360x4912 files.



Jun 16, 2013 at 05:13 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · skipping the D600?


Dustin Gent,

Those pics are gorgeous, and I think they would look fantastic printed large and framed... and the D800 will have the resolution to do that. Glass is a very personal preference... you may end up getting a 14-24, and only using it at the 14 end, which would make no sense if you already have a 14mm prime that you like.

I will say though, the 14-24 is a fantastic lens, but will get VERY expensive when you think about adding filters - the prices are keeping me from getting them. Ultimately, I think for your style of photography, the D800 would be an improvement over the D700. However, I'm not sure whether I can make a recommendation either way between getting a new body or new glass for ya...

Good luck!



Jun 16, 2013 at 01:37 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · skipping the D600?


+1 on everything said about your pictures!! You are an artist!

In reading the thread I was about to add that if I were you, seeing as how you don't like the D600 (which I love), I would stay with the D700. But after seeing your pictures, I have had to re-think my position. With your "eye" I would consider switching to the D800 - but to be frank with you, I would try my hardest to get the D800E. You are good - and your prints should be hanging on people's walls - so you should have the highest quality IQ possible - and that today is the D800E (along with the D3s and D4). However, with the D800(E), as others have pointed out, there is a higher cost that comes along with the D800 - high quality (read expensive) lenses/filters, high speed computer, high capacity disk drive(s), longer PP time - at a minimum - I had the D800, I know!! The D7100 is a very good, high quality camera (as someone suggested) but with your style of wide angle, it is counter productive.

If you can swing the change to the D800(E), I would switch and keep your current 14mm. If you can not make that entire commitment, then I would stay with the D700 and add a lens. However, since you have a good 14mm lens I would not switch to the zoom 14-24 - not that significant of an upgrade when cost is factored in. I would consider adding an additional, high quality, FL lens (Zeiss 28, 35 or Sigma 35 1.4). I think you would be better served by the later and waiting on the next Nikon upgrade (or winning the lottery and getting the D3s/D4). With the additional lens you will have added additional latitude to your work, and already have another high quality lens when you camera upgrade later.

Bless you - and the work that you do!






Jun 16, 2013 at 03:14 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · skipping the D600?


Thanks everyone for the thoughtful input- has me thinking about things I hadn't considered. I suppose I could rent a 14-24 and see for myself to see the difference between that and my samyang 14mm lens. The 14mm 2.8 cannot use filters as well, so no biggie to me.

I might look into adding either a 24mm or 35mm lens perhaps. There isn't anything i am NOT happy about with the D700.



Jun 16, 2013 at 04:43 PM
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