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I have noticed that the latest Nikon lenses have gone to bayonet hoods, which can increase their width considerably. Lens pouches must be wider to carry them. For instance, the newest 85mm F1.8 AFSG lens, which takes 67mm filters, uses a Nikon bayonet hood which is aprox. 90mm wide. Therefore, I have taken a hood off of a Celestron 300mm F5.6 Reflex lens, also 67mm front threads. That hood is still aprox. 67mm wide. It seems to work just fine on the 85mm AFSG Nikon lens for DX but I have not tried it yet on FX. It keeps everything narrow and compact. I remember lens shades just screwing in that were the same as the filter threads; the old 85mm AF F1.8 and 85mm F1.8 Ais. Current 180mm AF lens has a pull out hood, the old 200mm F4 has a pull out hood and the 105 F2 DC has a pull out hood. These are lenses that I have owned. I know that other lenses do the same. I have heard the arguments that pull out hoods may not be as effective. Nevertheless, I purchased a 72mm Sonia lens shade on eBay for the 180mm F2.8 and the 105 F2DC. That hood is more effective than the Nikon pull out hoods on those lenses. The Sonia hood added a little more length but kept the width nicely compact. It can be a pain when using filters to not have a bayonet lens shade but you cannot turn a polarizer with a bayonet lens hood. Is anyone else having problems with bayonet lens shades?