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p.1 #1 · life in the Crater


Ngorongoro Crater, a World Heritage Site

a little soft and probably a bit oversharpened to compensate, but....does it work?
Would you leave the bright grasses as is?

Alternate processing/style given the softness?

Scott



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Jun 03, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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p.1 #2 · life in the Crater


My attention is immediately drawn to the "what is it?" background.

Perhaps more on right and less on left?

For me the grasses are fine as is - love the contrast between elephants and color of grass. Must have been a wonderful experience!


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Jun 03, 2013 at 01:28 PM
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p.1 #3 · life in the Crater


I don't know why you shot a landscape at f/6.3. Did you need the high shutter speed to compensate for movement of the animals? In any case the soft grasses and out of focus background seem to work well. The elephants are the sharpest part of the image and help to draw our attention.

I am not sure what we are supposed to see regarding "does it work". This is an image of elephants grazing and/or walking across a grassland and is, I expect, a nice reminder of your trip. The past couple of years I have done lots of traveling and taken lots of travel pictures. They mean a lot to me but it has sometimes been difficult for me to realize that they mean less to others and when it comes to improving my photography what was important to me has little bearing. Would we be expected to have any different comments and critique if this was an image of cattle in Wyoming?



Jun 03, 2013 at 02:38 PM
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p.1 #4 · life in the Crater


Bob Jarman wrote:
My attention is immediately drawn to the "what is it?" background.

Perhaps more on right and less on left?

For me the grasses are fine as is - love the contrast between elephants and color of grass. Must have been a wonderful experience!

Bob


Is the reaction to the background and engaging element?
Scott



Jun 03, 2013 at 03:17 PM
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Camperjim wrote:
I don't know why you shot a landscape at f/6.3. Did you need the high shutter speed to compensate for movement of the animals? In any case the soft grasses and out of focus background seem to work well. The elephants are the sharpest part of the image and help to draw our attention.

I am not sure what we are supposed to see regarding "does it work". This is an image of elephants grazing and/or walking across a grassland and is, I expect, a nice reminder of your trip. The past couple of years I have done lots of traveling
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Thanks for the detailed comments Jim.
F 6.3: the distance to the subject + no tripod + movement of the elephants. Which I think is the reason for the softer elephants on the right.
Does it work in terms of enough interest overcoming technical short-comings.
Goal is an effective, engaging capture of sense of scale, place (which to me is exotic). No aspirations here for a unique image.

Scott



Jun 03, 2013 at 03:31 PM
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sbeme wrote:
Is the reaction to the background and engaging element?
Scott


To me it is a distraction - I think in part from the - what appears to me as - unusual coloring. Likely because that is what I saw first while scrolling down for the image.




Jun 03, 2013 at 03:41 PM
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p.1 #7 · life in the Crater


I think it does a pretty good job creating a sense of place. I looked at it for a few seconds and thought, I can imagine being there.

So I kind of like it, just as is.



Jun 03, 2013 at 06:02 PM
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p.1 #8 · life in the Crater


Later....

An slight alternative? CEP - White Neutralizer, CS6 Gradient in foreground, burn & dodge background, extend canvas and Content-Aware fill, bump mid-tone contrast. Selectively sharpen portions of hillside & elephants.

Bob







Jun 03, 2013 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #9 · life in the Crater


Perhaps a tweak for less overlap between positive and negative space on the elephant backs?







Jun 03, 2013 at 06:57 PM
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p.1 #10 · life in the Crater


And another alternative...mainly SEP with lots of control points to fine tune tonal range, contrast, & structure.

The bull looks like he has some years on him...

Bob







Jun 03, 2013 at 08:06 PM
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p.1 #11 · life in the Crater


To me it looks a bit overexposed and the highlights looks a bit washed out from it. I get the field vs. elephant contrast in play, but I think you can pull the field down some (I masked elephants) and still have sufficient contrast between them.

Took a stab at it, then partway (80%-90% ish) through some of my own, I ran into Dan Margulis action(s) @ PPW Bigger Hammer and PPW Sharpen 2013.

First time I've ever tried using them, and on top of my tweaks, I had to dial them back some ... thoughts?




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Jun 04, 2013 at 12:31 AM
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p.1 #12 · life in the Crater


Mister Bean wrote:
I think it does a pretty good job creating a sense of place. I looked at it for a few seconds and thought, I can imagine being there.

So I kind of like it, just as is.


thx,
glad it worked for you
Scott



Jun 04, 2013 at 05:35 AM
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p.1 #13 · life in the Crater


I find all the re-works interesting and the additional room above the elephants helpful.
Still enjoying the BW interpretations, something I will likely revisit on many images months down the road when I have completed some major culling and vetted more of the originals with your ongoing input and patience.
Meanwhile, I hope you folks are having fun with the reworks, as I am aware that my daily images could readily dominate the forum.
Kent,
I like the alternative color play in the grasses.

Scott



Jun 04, 2013 at 05:38 AM
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RustyBug wrote:
To me it looks a bit overexposed and the highlights looks a bit washed out from it. I get the field vs. elephant contrast in play, but I think you can pull the field down some (I masked elephants) and still have sufficient contrast between them.

Took a stab at it, then partway (80%-90% ish) through some of my own, I ran into Dan Margulis action(s) @ PPW Bigger Hammer and PPW Sharpen 2013.

First time I've ever tried using them, and on top of my tweaks, I had to dial them back some ... thoughts?


FWIW I prefer the softer aesthetic pre-actions. Now how it might look in print is another matter, suspect the actions would benefit the printed image.

Bob



Jun 04, 2013 at 07:08 AM
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sbeme wrote:
I find all the re-works interesting and the additional room above the elephants helpful.
Still enjoying the BW interpretations, something I will likely revisit on many images months down the road when I have completed some major culling and vetted more of the originals with your ongoing input and patience.
Meanwhile, I hope you folks are having fun with the reworks, as I am aware that my daily images could readily dominate the forum.
Kent,
I like the alternative color play in the grasses.

Scott



Thanks Scott,

PM'd you.

Bob



Jun 04, 2013 at 07:09 AM
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p.1 #16 · life in the Crater


Scott,

Mostly some multiply and saturation/hue @ the grasses. A touch of blur to the bottom of the image to try and give a kiss of depth perspective, along with a little bit of burn here & there (up to that point).

Adding Dan's actions on top was a "bit much", but I still found it interesting. Not sure if I was able to do anything to increase the "expanse" vibe ... here's the continuation from my pre-action above with some additional screening/blur to try and extend the expanse vibe. Feel like I'm missing something @ how to optimize pp "expanse" ... any hints at technique from the classic art realm would be appreciated. I've tossed a touch more screening at outer edges to try and draw us "outward" with tonal value secondary to the contrast @ subject.

BTW, no worries @ dominate ... we always have the antidote at our disposal, i.e. more of our own images.







Jun 04, 2013 at 08:36 AM
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p.1 #17 · life in the Crater


Wow!
A bunch of beautiful re-interpretations!
Scott



Jun 08, 2013 at 10:27 PM





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