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Jeff Nolten wrote:
.... My 5Dc is better than current crop sensors and the 5D3 is improved over the 5Dc. Comparing current bodies the FF will always win. Thats why I go with a 5D for my real camera and go with a crop when I want to save weight/bulk or push reach. Canon and Nikon produce a range of products whose performance is well tested and publicized. We're lucky to get to make well informed decisions and pick the products that suit us best.
I'm glad to read of another photographer who agrees with me, in general, about full frame vs. crops ... and specifically the 5Dc vs. crops.
Yes, full frame wins every time. I ventured into Canon's 18MP-Crop-Sensor territory beginning with the t3i and was pretty disappointed. Well, I said, the 60D and 7D have GOT to be better than this. So I tried both of them. Same level of disappointment compared to the output of my 5Dc at ALL ISOs as well as my 40D up to ISO 1600. I tried Micro Four Thirds (Panasonic G1, GH! and GF1 ... all nice cameras) and Four Thirds (E-series with Olympus' best lenses; I still own and use this excellent gear), but the noise levels above ISO 800 were too much for my tastes. I routinely shoot ISO 800 and up.
But since I still use my 5Dc for pro work, I kept trying out various, light crop cameras for travel and general purpose and settled on a t1i (15MP) with the AA filter removed. It's as close as I've gotten so far (using a crop body) to the output of the 5Dc. With the 16-35mm f/2.8 attached, it's often hard to tell the two apart, IQ-wise. And the t1i does very well at ISO 1600 ... though not too well above that.
Anyway, for those who have no qualms about the 18MP sensor, the SL1 looks like a very competent little camera. A friend of mine just bought one and loves it. But she's never shot full frame and has no intentions of shooting full frame. I think the 18MP sensor that Canon has been re-purposing these last several years started out as mediocre and continues to be mediocre, and I'm not just referring to the noise.