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sincejan wrote:
... and we all know that Nikon lenses are sharper






May 14, 2013 at 05:22 AM
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11 Thousand Dollars! Is it gold plated? Canon has gotten out of hand with their pricing...


May 14, 2013 at 05:31 AM
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TheDoc65 wrote:
11 Thousand Dollars! Is it gold plated? Canon has gotten out of hand with their pricing...


It's about where I figured it'd land price-wise.

For it to be a constant f/4 with specs and performance expected from L lenses combined with the integrated extender, it's about right. I'm guessing it'll still be around $10,300 in about a year. I can't wait to get one via CPS to try out. Might be a worthwhile business investment for what I mainly shoot.



May 14, 2013 at 06:25 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


Oh Lord how I hope the Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 OS + TC's is viable, because it's only around 30% of the price.

I remember the original poll on pricing and I thought $9K would be ridiculous but not unrealistic. How naive I was.



May 14, 2013 at 06:27 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


500mm weighs 7 Lbs and costs 10,400
200-400 weighs 8 Lbs and costs 11,800

$10,400 / 7 Lbs = $1,486 / Lbs
$11,800 / 8 Lbs = $1,475 / Lbs

Cheaper by the Lb than the 500mm


A bit silly but if you weigh as proxy for the cost of the materials, difficulty assembling, ... this makes a bit of sense.



May 14, 2013 at 06:43 AM
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Stoffer wrote:

silly little troll popping up in a serious thread

Tim



May 14, 2013 at 08:24 AM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


£12k !!!!!! I must say canon have some balls .


May 14, 2013 at 08:38 AM
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We're living in an expensive country, I will go to the states and buy save me few £k and yet I can spend it on holiday

Ian.Dobinson wrote:
£12k !!!!!! I must say canon have some balls .




May 14, 2013 at 09:03 AM
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Well its £12000 including taxes here in the UK. I wonder which guy (yes singular) will buy it? Thanks Canon you convinced me to buy the 500ii


May 14, 2013 at 09:12 AM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


Canon CPN has a bit up with Thorsten Milse on the new lens.

Thorsten Milse's impressions

"With one finger you can activate the 1.4x extender and almost instantly you are ready to take another picture. And itís pin sharp too; I checked the images on my computer later and, both with and without the extender, the photographs are perfect."



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Ian.Dobinson wrote:
£12k !!!!!! I must say canon have some balls .


Put a 1Dx on the end and you're wandering around with 17k of kit. Personally i'd be afraid to even pick it up...

12k is a lot of money, but remember it is a unique lens - effectively a 200-560mm f/4-f/5.6 zoom with (probably) prime-like image quality. For sure, few of us are going to buy it at even half that price, but for those that do it offers a capability that is probably not available otherwise without buying 2 or 3 lenses.



May 14, 2013 at 09:50 AM
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That's precisely the point, at least for me. It should replace at least three primes, that combined, cost more (based on replacement cost). And wow, it sure is a lot of glass... over 30 elements, including the TC. That it's supposedly close to prime quality is impressive.

The Nikon 200-400 is where Canon was with the previous super-tele prices. Just wait until they release an updated version and we'll see how close it is to the Canon's pricing. Their $18k 800/5.6 certainly was a surprise. BTW, I thought I've read the Nikon 200-400 is soft at 400mm and far distance subject matter?



May 14, 2013 at 09:57 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
BTW, I thought I've read the Nikon 200-400 is soft at 400mm and far distance subject matter?


I spoke to a guy about ten days ago who had recently bought a brand new D4 and a 200-400VR2. With a combined price of under £10k he was smiling. His smile dropped when I asked him if the 200-400 was in fact soft at 400mm and infinity. He admitted it was. That is serious design flaw on an expensive pro lens.

People saying that the 200-400L will replace various primes is all very well, but either haven't they bought a mk2 already or are willing to go through the hassle of selling their primes to replace with them the new lens. Sports agencies will have their 300 and 400 f/2.8 ii's already. Are they going to sell or trade in for the new lens? I'm sure Canon will do them a deal...



May 14, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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No focus limiter?




May 14, 2013 at 11:04 AM
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Aerophotog wrote:
No focus limiter?


Focus Distance Range

You can set the focus limiting range to three distinct ranges for faster, more accurate autofocusing. The three ranges are: Full (6.56' to infinity); 6.56 to 19.69'; 19.69' to infinity.



May 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


Here's a quick comparison of dimensions, weight, and price for the EF 200-400/4(5.6) and some likely competitors, sorted in order of weight.

The EF 200-400/4(5.6) has two entries in the table, one without and one with the 1.4x Extender engaged; only the focal length and aperture values are different.

Weight, dimensions, and prices for the Sigma 120-300/2.8 OS include the 1.4x III and 2x III Extenders that are identified in the lens name column. I expect the Sigma with Extenders will have much less nimble AF and slightly degraded IQ in comparsion with the EF 200-400/4(5.6). I owned a Sigma 120-300 OS for a while last year.

I must admit I underpredicted its weight (2.4 kg vs. 3.6 kg) and cost ($9,650 vs. $11,800). Well, you get what you pay for.

weight prediction, http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1117852/0#10674646

cost prediction, Lens$db-v24, http://tinyurl.com/jcolwell-lensdb









May 14, 2013 at 11:42 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


bend over, "white" guys!!


May 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM
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So for the price in comparison, a person could pick up a Nikon d800, Nikon 200-400 and a Nikon 70-200. I really don't see why this lens is over 11,000 dollars! Canon really needs to get a clue on the pricing of new lenses when they come out.


May 14, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


trenchmonkey wrote:
bend over, "white" guys!!


I said it before and I will say it again "IF it's WHITE it's never long enough."



May 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Official: Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS 1.4X released!


the lens is cool, but the pricing is ridiculous


May 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM
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