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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


"Another great feature of this discovery is the raw histogram which will let you actually see if anything is under- or overexposed in raw and not just in jpeg like with the vanilla Canon fw. [or by trying to use nasty profiles that make it hard to review photos]"

So more awesome news along with the new incredible video modes unlocked. These new video modes show Canon gave us some pretty incredible video hardware to say the least, truly stunning .


(What the heck is Canon doing letting themselves be utterly taken over by their marketing drones.
They were light years ahead in all tech other low ISO DR and even when they fell behind the latter they still didn't try to take advantage of the stuff they were way ahead on.)


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May 13, 2013 at 05:03 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Do you just complain about Canon all the time?

You do have other options.



May 13, 2013 at 05:37 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Exciting times. They gave us the hardware and now with the hacks exciting times indeed.



May 13, 2013 at 06:37 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Canon has only 1 Software Engineer for the whole EOS line. They're still using PROLOG .


May 13, 2013 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


A raw histogram would be oh so sweet! Make it happen!


May 13, 2013 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Wow, a RAW histogram would be soooo nice to have. I hope they can implement that on older hardware, too!


May 13, 2013 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Even more whining about Canon
yawn

Just sell off you Canon gear and buy a Nikon
see if the grass is greener



May 13, 2013 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


abqnmusa wrote:
Even more whining about Canon
yawn

Just sell off you Canon gear and buy a Nikon
see if the grass is greener


I don't think you understood the message very well. This thing will utterly annihilate the Nikons for video now. And we should be getting RAW historgrams soon on the 5D3 (and likely almost all sub-1 series bodies).

The 5D3 hardware was vastly superior to the Nikon hardware all along (in terms of video, live view and 24fps low and medium res stills capture (not for low ISO high MP still)) it was just locked and hidden away.




May 13, 2013 at 08:56 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


I'm apparently lost. Are we talking normal 5D3 firmware or some magic lantern beta or what?

Edit - nevermind, I should read the first page of FM more often and quit skipping to the forums.

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May 13, 2013 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


cputeq wrote:
I'm apparently lost. Are we talking normal 5D3 firmware or some magic lantern beta or what?


ML pre-alpha



(tangent here but look what it does for video dynamic range :
First with regular firmware:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PvCRQ-haYYc
Now with ML firmware!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9HR92jzWUd4
shocking no?
)



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Oh my gawd the DR difference between them... is mind blowing.

skibum5 wrote:
ML pre-alpha

(tangent here but look what it does for video dynamic range :
First with regular firmware:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PvCRQ-haYYc
Now with ML firmware!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9HR92jzWUd4
shocking no?
)




May 13, 2013 at 09:38 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


Will any of these software/firmware updates make it to the 5D2?

Or is the 5D2 hardware obsolete to take advantage of these enhancements?



May 13, 2013 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


I am just a photo shooter, but how do you swap the "out of the box JPEG" histogram with this RAW one you speak of?


May 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the big difference between the two more a matter of the difference in "exposure"? What I am trying to say is the highlight of the second clip does indeed look better but the shadow part was darker at the same time, too. I am not trying to downplay the difference here but is DR difference really that big?


May 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


AGeoJO wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that the big difference between the two more a matter of the difference in "exposure"? What I am trying to say is the highlight of the second clip does indeed look better but the shadow part was darker at the same time, too. I am not trying to downplay the difference here but is DR difference really that big?


He said that shot both using the same ISO/shutter/aperture. The interior walls do look darker but it was probably just a different tone curve that he applied to the RAW stuff. Maybe it's not a perfect comparison but I don't think you could make the one shot with the regular firmware ever pull teh clouds back like that without having the interior go to mush and noise.



May 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


myron lee wrote:
I am just a photo shooter, but how do you swap the "out of the box JPEG" histogram with this RAW one you speak of?


There would be an option in the Magic Lantern Menu. It might be at least another month or two before they get public releases out that you don't have to compile yourself.



May 13, 2013 at 10:09 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


I am just a photo shooter, but how do you swap the "out of the box JPEG" histogram with this RAW one you speak of?

Wow. We have an amazing camera. Can't believe Canon has hidden away the continuous RAW video output. Now I really have to hide my camera away so my Hollywood neighbors isnt so tempted to borrow it.



May 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


cameron12x wrote:
Will any of these software/firmware updates make it to the 5D2?

Or is the 5D2 hardware obsolete to take advantage of these enhancements?


it sounds like the raw histogram should make it to the 5D2

it sounds like some of the video stuff will but it's hard to say, maybe it would need to be a bit lower resolution or still have lots of moire edit: just saw some demos, it does the better DR (although not as much of a help as on the 5D3) and it does have lots of aliasing and moire and it seems to drop frames a lot; I don't think the 5D2 sensor is powerful enough to ever be able to match what the 5D3 does for video. I could be wrong but I really doubt it.


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May 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


kewlcanon wrote:
Canon has only 1 Software Engineer for the whole EOS line. They're still using PROLOG .

Actually there is a shred of truth to this, the whole reason it is hackable in the first place is because Canon uses DATALIGHT ROM-DOS which is an embedded hack of microsoft's MS-DOS, the predominant PC operating system from the 80's and 90's (pre-windows).

http://www.datalight.com/products/rom-dos

So really it's at least based on something that is quite dated in the computing world.



May 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Even more shocking news. True RAW histogram added to 5D3!


What is wrong with the histogram in RAW mode now? Canon histograms have been fine for years other than the lack of right border.

EBH



May 14, 2013 at 01:30 AM
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