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Archive 2013 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits

  
 
David Baldwin
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p.1 #1 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I am looking for an affordable backup lens for portraiture on a 7D. I am not impressed with the "nifty fifty" and was wondering if anyone where successfully using the excellent little 40mm on a crop body for people photography. By my reckoning the 40mm should make a sharp light short telephoto for portrait use. Am I deluded? Is it too short?


May 10, 2013 at 02:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


In my experience ( i.e. I own one) the 40mm is a nice little lens, but optically it's no better than the 50 1.8 II IMHO and for me 50mm on a crop is a better portrait length.


May 10, 2013 at 03:26 AM
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p.1 #3 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Taking the crop into account, and apparently 50-62mm is close to what the human eye sees (can't remember exact number) I find the 40 is quite nice, but never liked it in comparison to my buddy's nifty fifty.

Try them both out in store, grab a couple of test shots of fellow customers, a friend, or the salesperson, at the end of the day it is what you like to shoot with that is important and if you are happy with the shots.



May 10, 2013 at 04:52 AM
David Baldwin
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p.1 #4 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Thanks guys, I may have to rethink my backup lens strategy from scratch. For the record I have owned 2 copies of the nifty fifty and can say in 30 years kit buying have never hated a lens so deeply! Its build disgusts me.


May 10, 2013 at 05:49 AM
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p.1 #5 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


David Baldwin wrote:
Thanks guys, I may have to rethink my backup lens strategy from scratch. For the record I have owned 2 copies of the nifty fifty and can say in 30 years kit buying have never hated a lens so deeply! Its build disgusts me.


Yes it's not well made, but it's light, sharp and cheap. I keep one in my bag when I'm travelling and it comes in handy for allsorts

I'd use the 50mm 1.8 II over the dreadful 18-55 IS kit lenses any day.

Not that the 40mm pancake isn't sharp and rather fun, it's just not what I would choose for portraits, you may very well think differently.



May 10, 2013 at 06:10 AM
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p.1 #6 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I wouldn't think that portraits would be a strong point for a 40mm 2.8 lens


May 10, 2013 at 06:23 AM
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p.1 #7 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Is it just the build that's the problem?

The results from the 50mm 1.8 are actually quite decent, and it's a good length for portraits on crop.



May 10, 2013 at 06:37 AM
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p.1 #8 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


My primary portrait lens is the 85 L II on full frame, but I like the 40 pancake as a lightweight travel option and a backup as a normal range lens.

The 40 should be fine on crop, especially as a backup for portraits. Have you considered the 60 macro? I really liked that lens when I shot a 40D.

40 STM wide open on a 5D II-

http://www.twiceasnicephotos.com/img/s2/v72/p1479579986-5.jpg

Edited on May 10, 2013 at 07:54 AM · View previous versions



May 10, 2013 at 07:19 AM
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p.1 #9 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


The 40 lens is ok for portrait on a crop body. But I would not buy one if I needed a portrait lens. There are many other better lenses for that. Even a few low priced lenses.


May 10, 2013 at 07:31 AM
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p.1 #10 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I don't see the 40 STM or Iffy Fifty as anything more than "emergency" portrait lenses. There are a lot of better lenses for photographing people. My final falling out with the 50 was trying to do some wide open head shots of my actress daughter with a T2i -- terrible results in almost every way. I liked the 50/1.4 much better for overall tone and background, but nothing was so pleasing as the 50/1.2L. Generally, you get what you pay for!

The only inexpensive EF 50 that turns in consistently excellent results for me on all subjects is the 50/2.5 Compact Macro.

The 40, like 35, is just to short for me for anything but waist-up on a crop camera.



May 10, 2013 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #11 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


how about the 50/2.5 compact macro?
older buzzy focus motor, but decent build, versatile and sharp.




May 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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p.1 #12 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I don't think so, it's a good lens but it's not really a portrait lens. It's very sharp and somewhat useful for full body, group, candid, or the like. But the bokeh is not really terribly pleasing and it's a bit of an odd focal length to work with on a crop body.


May 10, 2013 at 01:09 PM
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p.1 #13 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Access wrote:
I don't think so, it's a good lens but it's not really a portrait lens. It's very sharp and somewhat useful for full body, group, candid, or the like. But the bokeh is not really terribly pleasing and it's a bit of an odd focal length to work with on a crop body.


Yeah, you're probably right about the bokeh; it's such a good lens for its uses, but perhaps portraiture isn't one of them unless using a solid backdrop.



May 10, 2013 at 01:13 PM
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p.1 #14 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Access wrote:
I don't think so, it's a good lens but it's not really a portrait lens. It's very sharp and somewhat useful for full body, group, candid, or the like. But the bokeh is not really terribly pleasing and it's a bit of an odd focal length to work with on a crop body.


It's as good as the 40 STM and old Iffy 50! Ha-ha.

I''m not saying 50 is great for portraits on FF, but on crop sensor it is respectable 80mm equiv in angle of view. But that 50 macro is an awesome lens. Bokeh wide open isn't bad.



May 10, 2013 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #15 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Gunzorro wrote:
But that 50 macro is an awesome lens. Bokeh wide open isn't bad.

Yeah it is, that was the first lens I bought and I still use it today. Very very sharp, good for macro or normal work.



May 10, 2013 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #16 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


Surprised no one has suggested getting the 50mm but v1. Better build quality than v2 for sure.


May 12, 2013 at 08:47 AM
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p.1 #17 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


gpop wrote:
how about the 50/2.5 compact macro?
older buzzy focus motor, but decent build, versatile and sharp.



Yes, another thumbs up for this underrated little gem.



May 12, 2013 at 08:53 AM
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p.1 #18 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I second the motion for the 60 mm macro.......It is superbly sharp and I won the Photo of the Year in my camera club with it. It's pretty fast and a great portrait length plus you have a macro all in one.....You can buy it for about $300 or so....I'd snap one of these up if I were you...You won't regret it.

Photo of the year enclosed...yeah its not a portrait but it is sharp and a perfect focal length for great portrait shots







May 12, 2013 at 09:43 AM
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p.1 #19 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


I just got mine on Tuesday, but this is the first time I've had to play with it. Here are a few shots from my 7D last night.

New lens = gratuitous cat shots
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8553/8806534583_a7db7920a9_b.jpg


100% crop (noise! but sharp)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/8806505193_24c6dac2ed_b.jpg


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/8806542055_757cf5632e_b.jpg



May 24, 2013 at 02:52 PM
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p.1 #20 · Anyone using 40mm STM on a cropper for portraits


A few more from my first real outing with it. Canon 7D w/ 40mm STM:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/8990719261_fedc10a0b2_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5453/8990721399_c4febd572d_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7422/8991911680_9d4ecdee1e_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3775/8990711945_43a24b2543_b.jpg



Jun 08, 2013 at 07:37 PM
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