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| p.7 #1 · Leica S-System and the future of Medium-Format |
This contributes to the Leica is for rich people idea. Compared to Leica, Zeiss is relatively cheap. Zeiss makes quality lenses that doesn't tries to add in exclusivity tax like Leica. There are a lot of famed, old lens makers out there, and it seems Leica is the only one that makes all their prices seem like bargains. I was browsing Leica R lenses on ebay for my NEX. It funny how the M lenses are atleast 2-3 x the prices of the R lenses, simply because there isn't any new cameras coming from Leica to use the R lenses....Show more →
As I used both leica M and zeiss ZM lenses (and also ZE and R lenses), the leica M lenses really are on a different level in build quality.
So were the two german build ZM's by the way. I only tried the 15mm ZM and it felt like a leica.
Optically they both are great and it really depends on what is to your liking on what brand u take. I prefer the drawing of the leica's so sold all my ZM's. Others (like edward) like the zeiss look better and take the ZM's.
Optical performance with the leica looks was for me the big reason to go for the leica's, but the extra build quality was for me a close second. To me its worth the extra money.
And I can't say I'm really rich or a dentist.
Comparing R and M lenses I find a bit difficult. The M's are current lenses, have totally different designs (also designed to be really compact), to my knowing the M lenses have higher optical quality also because most are more recent and last, there is a bigger market with a current camera for the M lenses.
You really can't use that to say leica M lenses are to high in price.
Red, I don't intent to start a Leica vs Zeiss debate. My reply was precisely to your allegation German made ZM are the same price as Leica M, no more no less. The Sonnar 85/2 is better than the 90/2 summicron, which is quite weak wide open. I never mentioned the C-Sonnar, which is a classic design dating to the early 50s if I'm not mistaken.
Edward, do u mean the 90 cron AA or the older 90 cron?
To my understanding the 90AA vs 85/2 sonnar is like an all purpose lens which has plenty of sharpness also wide open (leica) against a good sharp but not to sharp lens ideal for portraits to give them some softness (not a non sharp lens!, but a forgiving lens) (zeiss).
Were did u find that the 90 cron is weaker wide open?
I ask because Im looking for a long M lens and the 90AA seems to me like one of the better options.