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p.36 #1 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Thanks, Jeff, ebookman, morpheus, Jochen! Lovely orchid, too! It didn't take you long to learn to make that newborn baby sing!


Jun 27, 2013 at 04:53 AM
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p.36 #2 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Look what arrived for testing for the next week:










Jul 03, 2013 at 02:57 PM
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p.36 #3 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


So, I haven't really had a chance to shoot more than a few quick test shots outside my work building, but here are my first impressions on the Touit 12mm:

Size/Build: It's very similar in length to the Fuji 14/2.8, but the Touit is significantly larger in diameter, and the hood makes it larger still. While overall volume isn't drastically different, it FEELS enormous in comparison, and it doesn't fit in my bag nearly as easily.

The build quality is excellent. It's a plastic lens, but it's extremely solid, and very tightly put together....feels good in the hand. I'm not a huge fan of the smooth rubber rings, but that's personal preference. AF is fine for an ultra-wide, but it's certainly not fast...it's about half the speed of the Fuji 14, but it's plenty fast enough for any major use you'd have.

Image quality - this will be continually updating. First blush, it looks to be quite a good lens. It's sharp to the corners (though not blisteringly sharp), and has a very neutral color rendition. In comparison, the Fuji 14 is sharper than the Touit 12 across the frame, at least on the first lone test I did.

I don't want to show the full building where I work, but what I did is go out, frame a shot of the front of the building with the Zeiss 12mm, then swap to the Fuji 14mm, and back up about 2 steps to keep the exact same framing, so you should be able to get a good idea of resolution and contrast between them on the same size subject. Of course, the 12mm is wider, so if you need the extra 2mm, it may be irrelevant how it compares to the 14mm.

100% crops, straight from LR 5 (on my 1080p screen, I need to hit the magnifying glass to see 100%):






Here you can see that while the Touit 12 is fine, and quite even in resolution across the frame, compared to the Fuji 14, it trails both in the center and in the corner, across the aperture range (f/5.6 was similar). I included the crop off center at f/8 to really show how the 14mm shows up on resolution (though there's some difference in background compression here due to the longer focal length).

However, if you're not doing head to head, the Zeiss 12, so far, looks to be a pretty good lens. Perhaps not exceptional, but pretty good. It doesn't have any real weakness at the edge of the frame, and it's a nice wide angle.

I'll update here as I shoot a lot more with the 12mm as the week goes by (I'll also do a better comparison than just this one quick one.)




Jul 03, 2013 at 04:17 PM
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p.36 #4 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Thanks Jordan. Looking forward to hearing about your experiences with the lens.


Jul 03, 2013 at 04:31 PM
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p.36 #5 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Took it out for a little hike after work. Good lens. Very good even...not exceptional to my eye, though. I was wrong about the build being plastic...the outer barrel is indeed metal (in cold AC, the metal is revealed.)

Anyway, being a big fan of ultrawides, I was surprised to find that I found that 12mm is a little too wide for me personally in a prime. When I take out my UWA zooms, I use the widest end a LOT, but there are some compositions where that just isn't ideal. For instance, the vertical shot of the stream leading to the bridge...I preferred the 14mm shot I took a minute after, as the focal length was better suited. That said, for wide: it's very good. I did find the size to cause a few issues when switching lenses with my bag, however, just because the front element and hood are so big (in comparison to all my other Fuji lenses).

Anyway, some sample images...all with the 12mm:


























Jul 03, 2013 at 11:53 PM
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p.36 #6 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


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Jul 06, 2013 at 12:59 AM
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p.36 #7 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


I have posted my thoughts on the Touit 12mm vs the Fuji 14mm. It includes the test above, plus a closer focus test in a controlled environment. Still showing the Fuji 14mm to be a slightly better optic, though both are quite good.

http://admiringlight.com/blog/zeiss-touit-12mm-f2-8-vs-fujinon-14mm-f2-8-r/



Jul 07, 2013 at 07:53 PM
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p.36 #8 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Was showing my setup to my mechanic as he's looking to replace his old Nikon SLR for something a bit more sleek, compact, and functional. He was pretty blown away needless to say at the punch the 32/nex-6 combo packs.

Here's a close up shot of some cams on a block being built. I took it to show him the detail that can be obtained.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1064836_10104718367994604_1720934535_o.jpg



Jul 08, 2013 at 06:58 PM
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p.36 #9 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Good work, Jordan, Joan! Jordan, your second edges out your first as my favorite.
A couple of my own




  NEX-7    E 12mm F2.8 lens    12mm    f/8.0    1/250s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NEX-7    E 12mm F2.8 lens    12mm    f/7.1    1/800s    100 ISO    -1.7 EV  




Jul 08, 2013 at 08:09 PM
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p.36 #10 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Here's my full Touit 12mm review for those who are interested: http://admiringlight.com/blog/review-zeiss-touit-12mm-f2-8-distagon-fuji-x-mount/

It's a very good lens. It's got its issues, but it's a very good lens.

Here's a shot from yesterday, BTW:








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p.36 #11 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Very interesting review Jordan! It reflects most of the early impressions I get from using my Touit 12mm on my NEX 7, but does not answer the one question I have. Somehow, while my images are really sharp and clean, they seem almost too sharp and clean, which could indicate a lack of very fine detail. Or that there is some in-camera processing to "clean up", say distortion or CA, and that this robs the image of said detail. Is that something that resonates with you?


Jul 13, 2013 at 05:47 AM
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p.36 #12 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


It would be VERY interesting to see a straight comparison of the 12mm on NEX and Fuji. If nothing else just to see how much of the corner softness that is due to Sony's (off lately) let's say - less than remarkable - sensor topping filter stacks.


Jul 14, 2013 at 01:17 AM
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p.36 #13 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


That would indeed be very interesting and hopefully illuminating to see, the Suede. RAW and well-processed files, both.


Jul 14, 2013 at 06:51 AM
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p.36 #14 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


I think that slightly lower 12/2.8 performance is price for those extra 2mm.


Jul 14, 2013 at 02:04 PM
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p.36 #15 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Bumping this thread back to life... wishing for some NEX-6 firmware love.

Touit32




Sep 04, 2013 at 03:41 AM
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p.36 #16 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


I see that zeiss pop zep.


Sep 04, 2013 at 05:18 AM
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p.36 #17 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


touit 12mm

I realize I am asking us to speculate but based on experience, companies involved ect would you expect the upcoming Touit 50 mm to be superior to the upcoming Sony Zeiss 16-70?

Would you expect the new FF 50mm to be a bigger lens than the 2 mentioned above?

thank you, joanlvh







Sep 04, 2013 at 12:22 PM
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p.36 #18 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


Mescalamba wrote:
I think that slightly lower 12/2.8 performance is price for those extra 2mm.


I agree the 12mm lens is a much wider lens. Both lenses look good to my eyes.



Sep 04, 2013 at 01:34 PM
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p.36 #19 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


This thread needs a bump! How about a little trip to lunch with the girlfriend and I?

Here are some shots... NEX-6 / Touit 32. For a small package with a huge punch I LOVE this combination. It hasn't left my side since I got it.







<3 this combo. Have some filters on the way to enhance my experience:



Edited on Nov 30, 2013 at 02:47 AM · View previous versions



Nov 30, 2013 at 02:42 AM
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p.36 #20 · Touit touit touit.... touit :)


joanlvh wrote:
touit 12mm

I realize I am asking us to speculate but based on experience, companies involved ect would you expect the upcoming Touit 50 mm to be superior to the upcoming Sony Zeiss 16-70?

Would you expect the new FF 50mm to be a bigger lens than the 2 mentioned above?

thank you, joanlvh


I think that non-zoomed the Zeiss 16-70 is about the same size as the FE 55 1.8. I am highly considering both of those to be honest. I'm not sure if I should jump on em, but they both utilize hybrid AF and I have none of that with any of the lenses I have currently.

Some fast AF would be appreciated in my arsenal.



Nov 30, 2013 at 02:45 AM
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