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bigkrackers
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · What now?


Hey guys,

I have been away from my photo hobby for a few years. I'm looking to upgrade from my trusted D200. I don't mind referbs or used and have been looking at either the D7000 or the D300s. I have to keep it $800 or less.

Any opinions or suggestions on either of these?

Main photo subjects are nature and my 4 year old kids. My kids will be starting t-ball and soccer this spring so, while not supper action packed, there might be some awkward running.

Thanks




Apr 07, 2013 at 01:49 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · What now?


D7000 for sure. I had a D300 (non s) and I liked the 7000 much more. Not only higher res, but much cleaner high ISOs. AF was, in my opinion, on par with the D300 and with a grip the D7000 is nearly as fast as the D800 in the FPS dept.


Apr 07, 2013 at 02:08 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · What now?


D7000 and 18-70mm kit and 70-300mm VR (nikon or tamron).


Apr 07, 2013 at 02:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · What now?


Welcome back.

I'm not much help for I have not shot either of these bodies but I hear people liking the D7000 more than the D300s.

If you can save up for a little more the D7100 is excellent. Or a used D700 would be nice.




Apr 07, 2013 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · What now?


The D300s is a great upgrade. It's still a wonderful camera. Much better noise control, faster, video, build quality, etc. But if you have to have more pixels then you'd have to do the D7000.


Apr 07, 2013 at 02:13 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · What now?


If you have some good, expensive, screw-driven AF lenses, the D300 might be better. Otherwise the D7000 does just about everything except low-light AF and buffer depth better.


Apr 07, 2013 at 03:16 PM
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agree with theSuede.

Depends on your lens suite. The D7000 can't handle the older AF lenses with the screw drive. If you have manual focus lenses it isn't an issue either way.

If lenses are not an issue, I would recommend the D7000 over the D300s UNLESS you know you are going to be shooting low-light stuff all the time.

Gene



Apr 07, 2013 at 03:53 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · What now?


All of my lenses are DX and most shooting will be outdoor with occasional indoor stuff.

I'm leaning towards the 7000 at this point unless there is a substantial reason to go with the D300s or another like model in this class.

Thanks for everyone input everyone.



Apr 07, 2013 at 05:23 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · What now?


D7k can take screw drive lenses just fine


Apr 07, 2013 at 05:27 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · What now?


Used D7000. No contest. And my D7000 operates the A/F on all of my old screw drive lenses just fine. Great camera.


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One of the big reasons for me to go for a camera in the "semi-pro" style, ala the D300/700/800 is the weather sealing. Not sure exactly of the specs of the D7K, but would imagine it doesn't have this. Probably not a deal breaker for most, or necessarily for you, but it is for me!


Apr 08, 2013 at 06:25 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · What now?


Genes Home wrote:
agree with theSuede.

Depends on your lens suite. The D7000 can't handle the older AF lenses with the screw drive. If you have manual focus lenses it isn't an issue either way.

If lenses are not an issue, I would recommend the D7000 over the D300s UNLESS you know you are going to be shooting low-light stuff all the time.

Gene


am lucky to be an aussie cos my d7k drives my 85 f1.8 D like a dream

Must be special issue D7k for the southern hemisphere

Tim



Apr 08, 2013 at 09:57 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · What now?


Some of you are confusing the D5100's lack of a screw drive with the D7K.

The D7K has one, but it isn't as powerful as the D300s. Not a big deal for most people.

I'd recommend going to a store and playing with a D7000 (the D7100 has pretty much the same handling, too). It has a wonderful sensor, but you might not like the handling vs. your D300s. Personally, I chose a (used) D300s over a D7000. I don't think I've missed too many shots because of my sensor, but handling/settings have cost me plenty. I really love how quickly I can adjust my D300s. I could buy a D7100 today, but I'm going to wait and see if a D400 comes at some point this year. If it doesn't, I'll worry about it in 2014 or 2015.

Either way, you'll wind up with a really nice camera.



Apr 08, 2013 at 11:17 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · What now?


You haven't provided a reason for making the upgrade, and honestly the upgrade path is not so simple. Permit me to relate my experience.

I went from a D200 to a D300 shortly after the D300 came out, and while I felt the D300 handled a little better and can offer a usable ISO 1600 (where ISO 800 was pushing it on the D200), I still prefer the colors out from the D200. If I were considering this today, I would not upgrade a trusted D200 to a D300/D300s.

That said, when I started wondering if I should "upgrade" my D300 to a D7000, I quickly realized that I would not be happy with the feel, handling, or AF capabilities of the D7000. Plus, the increase in resolution from a D300 or even a D200 is marginal at best (10/12 mps vs. 16 for the D7000). The D7000's AF may have trouble keeping up with your 4-year olds, especially if you are using AF/AF-D lenses rather than AF-S.

I don't know if the D7100 has a stronger AF motor to drive the older AF lenses than the D7000 did, but at least it offers a substantial increase in resolution and--IMO, even more importantly--dynamic range over the D200/D300 class cameras. Still not sure I'd pull the trigger, but if I were in your shoes I'd give the D7100 a good hard look.

Mike

PS To reiterate the correction above, the D7000 and D7100 do have AF motors to drive older AF and AF-D lenses that don't have built-in motors.



Apr 08, 2013 at 01:07 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · What now?


The D7000 is not weather sealed. It has some rubber gaskets on the back buttons but that's about it. It does not have the sealing of the prosumer lines.

m1mgd00 - I want to upgrade because with my D200 I have about 7 years of technical debt. There have been a lot of advancements to DSLR's in that time. I would have to imagine that the AF on the D7000 is better than the 11 point AF on my D200. I would also bet that any D series line made in the last 4 years does better with noise in low light conditions than my D200.

I'm certainly open to corrections with my assumptions. So, if I can get the same or near same performance from my D200 than a D300s or D7000 I'd keep it and upgrade a lens instead.




Apr 08, 2013 at 07:04 PM
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Apparently the D7000 doesn't know it is not weather sealed. My buddy used one for several years, and we shot in the rain plenty of times, as well as along the coast (which isn't always pleasant). Never had ONE problem until he got taken under by a wave along, shooting the coast.

Also, how "bad" of conditions are you planning on shooting in. I mean how many people just stand in the rain without any protection? I have done that in the past, but after my F5 failed on me (and there is NOTHING better sealed than that beast - some on par with it though), I use a rain fly now.

So what I am trying to say, that based on my experience living and shooting in the PNW - unless you are deliberately shooting in 50 mph sand storms, 1"+ per hour storms, or -50F weather, the D7K will be just fine.



Apr 08, 2013 at 07:43 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · What now?


The weather sealing was not a point of contention with me. It was a question in an earlier post. The fact remains however, the D7000 is not sealed against weather like the Prosumer lines are. Which is why Nikon will not claim the D7000 is weather sealed like it does for the prosumer and pro lines. Not a big deal for me as I do not shoot in dust storms, snow storms or rain storms and as was pointed out, you would probably want to protect your camera with a camera jacket in those conditions, even with the best weather seal.

I'm still in the D7000 camp at this point. For me, I will always be behind by 3-4 years as I do not go out and buy the latest model. When I replace this next camera it will probably be for a D400s or D10000.



Apr 08, 2013 at 08:17 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · What now?


Although the D300 is better IMO, at AF, that is just about all it will be better at. However, it's a larger form and more weather sealed, so that plays into the value proposition too.

Overall, if you get a nice used D7k, that would be my choice.



Apr 08, 2013 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · What now?


bigkrackers wrote:
All of my lenses are DX and most shooting will be outdoor with occasional indoor stuff.

I'm leaning towards the 7000 at this point unless there is a substantial reason to go with the D300s or another like model in this class.

Thanks for everyone input everyone.


I would agree with the others in the d7000 camp. I own both the d300 and d7000, and as much as I like my d300, for the types of shooting that you've described, I'd recommend the d7000. The better noise performance is very welcome, IMO.

good luck
Kerry



Apr 08, 2013 at 11:18 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · What now?


Any reason not to just use your D200? I still use mine and it's an excellent camera.






Apr 09, 2013 at 12:49 AM
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