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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


Hey guys,

Just wanted to get a feel for when most people sent their D3 or D3s in for a shutter change. Wedding season is ramping up again and I just picked up D3s with 170k on the shutter. Good idea to get a new one in there before using it at another wedding?



Apr 05, 2013 at 01:19 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


D3/D3s shutters have been known to last up to 500k+ actuations. Since you need to use a backup body anyway I say ride that D3s until the wheels come off


Apr 05, 2013 at 01:44 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


If it helps, there is a database from a survey of users that has the longest used D3 camera at 8,388,607 shutter actuations. Probably not the first shutter, but then...

http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/nikon_d3.htm



Apr 05, 2013 at 02:45 AM
MikeNakhla
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


Thanks guys! I shoot with either a 24 1.4 or 35 1.4 on one camera, 85 1.4 on another. My other body is a D800E.

Since I rely on two bodies at once, it might make sense to change it just in case, but then again, as you mentioned Snapsy, those shutters are quite durable...



Apr 05, 2013 at 02:47 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


If it were 270K, I'd think about it if I were earning an income from it. Given the rated life and the anecdotal things I've heard, at 170K I'd leave it alone unless it shows some signs of an issue.


Apr 05, 2013 at 02:54 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


Ride it till it dies. Carry a Sony RX100 in case it does, finish the wedding with that

*not sarcasm* You never know what you can do with so little until you're forced to.



Apr 05, 2013 at 03:01 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


If you're going to send it in for a new shutter why did you bother buying it then? 170k is nothing. I have a D7000 with that many clicks on it and I haven't even thought about sending it in.


Apr 05, 2013 at 03:14 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


I bought it for $2500 - so a new shutter would put it at $2800 or so, which is still a steal IMO


Apr 05, 2013 at 03:15 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


170K is nothing on a D3s. I sent my D3 in at 375k just for "preventative maintenance". As someone else mentioned, if it was 270k I might think about it.


Apr 05, 2013 at 11:10 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


my D3 is at 250k currently.....i'm not too worried....that's why i have 3 backup bodies....sure they're DX, and not the same as a D3, but i can get through a job no prob with them.....i'm riding this one out just to see how long it lasts.....just hoping that when i DO need a new shutter, there are still shutters AVAILABLE for the D3!!! Not really a guarantee with the way Nikon has been going lately...... :-)


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


I got a used D3 recently, one of the well used specimens from B&S, shutter count as of Wednesday, 03 Apr 2013, when I last took it out is 284,043. I'm enjoying every minute with it.


Apr 05, 2013 at 12:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


that is an "on failure" sort of part. of course a backup camera is reqd.


Apr 05, 2013 at 12:48 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


you'll know when you need one.

you should think about getting a back up body though if you haven't already.

I've got less than 20 days before my seasons kicks off, good luck on yours



Apr 05, 2013 at 04:49 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


you'll know when you need one.

you should think about getting a back up body though if you haven't already.

I've got less than 20 days before my seasons kicks off, good luck on yours



Apr 05, 2013 at 04:49 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


mnakhla wrote:
I bought it for $2500 - so a new shutter would put it at $2800 or so, which is still a steal IMO



It is a steal. But seriously you don't need a new shutter until it dies or you are getting other issues.


Take that $300 and buy something else you might need.



Apr 05, 2013 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


170K is just broken in.



Apr 05, 2013 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


You could replace it now and it could still die tomorrow. So what is the gain?


Apr 07, 2013 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


CGrindahl wrote:
If it helps, there is a database from a survey of users that has the longest used D3 camera at 8,388,607 shutter actuations. Probably not the first shutter, but then...

http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/nikon_d3.htm

hah, it's worth looking at the said user's name, Johnny Long Dong, there's no way that's legit. Plus, I believe that's the maximum number of actuations you can submit, or something like that.



Apr 08, 2013 at 04:59 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


HauntedHat wrote:
hah, it's worth looking at the said user's name, Johnny Long Dong, there's no way that's legit. Plus, I believe *that's the maximum number of actuations you can submit*, or something like that.


That's most likely right, because three or four people in there, under different user names, have the same exact number. In any case, those got to be outliers, just like the poor sod who had the shutter die on him after 35 clicks.



Apr 08, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · D3s Shutter count - 170k. Time for a change?


A new shutter is at least as likely to fail as one with 170k operations on it. Don't change until you have to. I had a pro Canon shutter die in under 2k operations (yep, just two thousand), and the replacement was defective when I got it, and it's replacement was better but still wasn't as good as my other cameras.

Statistically, a lot of things are most likely to die when they are very young or very old, with a lesser failure probability in between.

If your D3s is new to you then do some tests at maximum shutter speed. Shoot some plain blue sky, perhaps a little underexposed, and evaluate by looking for uneven tonal bands. They'll show up most easily as you rotate the image 90 degrees ate a time. If a shutter will die gradually then it will most likely start at the faster speeds and then deteriorate at progressively slower speeds too, picking up speed as it goes. Otherwise, it'll just fail suddenly and catastrophically, but at least that'll be easy to spot.

- Alan



Apr 08, 2013 at 01:20 PM
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