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Mar 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM
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As a friend of might liked to say, "kewl beans!"

Yu make your own colloidal chloride paper?



Mar 25, 2013 at 02:29 AM
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...or as another friend of mine says, it sure is "the bee's knees".
(an early 20th century expression)

Yes, I do make my own collodio-chloride paper, however if you wish
to try some without making your own, there is a nice Russian artist
in NY that makes it for sale.

Here: http://www.altphotoproducts.com/app-collodio-chloride-pop-2



Mar 27, 2013 at 04:12 AM
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Nice Dag, btw!

Of the processes you've tried, do you have a favorite?



Mar 27, 2013 at 09:25 AM
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I love most of them equally but Daguerreotypes best. The dag posted at the
top of my page is the latest acquisition to my collection - a quarter plate.

Interesting you should ask such a question because we just had a "ramble"
over comparing processes at our Facebook Antiquarian group. In particular
about the views many people hold on Platinum printing. In my opinion and
a few others, nowadays more of a status symbol process. Even the back
and forth on the pros & cons of printing platinum was fascinating to read.

The discussion started when I posted that I had attended an unrelated
photography workshop recently and many people when asked what they
looked forward to learn in the future replied - Platinum Printing. I was
surprised particularly in the way they talked about it and the drool like
look they had going.

It got overheated really fast to the point where my friend who agreed
and posted samples of side by side comparisons between Platinum and
Kallitypes and Gelatin Silver Prints. My comparisons were Platinum-
Kallitypes-Carbon Prints. The biggest issue was over the usage of the
word flat in relation to platinum printing, but once comparisons of light
to dark samples were posted denying reality was a near impossible task.

There were mainly 2 groups of photogs arguing it: 1. Newbies who heard
about how wonderful it is and saw a print or another of a famous photog
at some museum 2. Experienced printers that practice it. The smart ones
just made generic comments and wanted to know if I or my friend were
Platinum printing practitioners. They were in for a shocker when I posted
a link to my platinum printing and when they figured out that my friend is
the instructor for a big institution in SF in charge of teaching platinum and
other antiquarian printing processes.

There were also those that argued that it makes no sense to compare
processes on the account of the different qualities each holds. I am not of
that opinion even though I acknowledge the various properties in question.

They should be able to be compared on cost of materials vs average sale
prices, tonality, qualities of substract, permanency, whether they are 2D
or 3D...etc.




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You are such a tease! What was the result of the comparisons?


Mar 27, 2013 at 07:44 PM
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I am sorry. I got caught up in the overall view rather than the N result.

The result was to prove that side by side a strong gelatin silver print
can have a stronger presentation than a platinum print, which in its
natural state is flat. Although platinum can be made darker and more
dense, still it is something that you will have to like that specific look
and many artists like it just like that, which is just fine as well.

Also side by side, as stated, unless indicated one cannot distinguish
between a kallitype and a platinum print.

Today I am in cloud 9. I just got images of my new daguerreotype
equipment made by an amazing master of his craft. He is also going
to make me a new mercury pot.

Here: (click on images to enlarge)

http://kadenca.tumblr.com/post/46636096414/new-equipment-for-daguerreotype-making-next-a

http://kadenca.tumblr.com/post/46639091185/june-13-1846-self-regulating-suspension



Mar 30, 2013 at 04:48 AM
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In my research I've been impressed by the practical advantages of the Kallitype. Platinum and palladium sound appealing, but I wonder about whether the metals will over time catalyze air pollutants in a way that will build up acid that may cause paper to deteriorate. OTOT, I need to spend more effort making images that matter enough to care about longevity.

Wow! The other bits are sweet, but the plate holder is a work of functional ART! Seems you are collecting the right tools to really enjoy making dags.



Mar 30, 2013 at 10:45 PM
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Platinum/Platinum and most paper processes nowadays are from a
conservation POV quite durable. Some processes are also aided by
usage of bees wax and lavender. A good example would be salt prints,
albumen prints, etc.

On this argument between paper advocates and silver plate advocates
there is a punch line that goes like this - there is a daguerreotype of
Talbot but no talbotype of Daguerre.

Anyway, I am indeed collecting all the right tools and I am having them
done by a uniquely qualified wood & metal crafts worker (literally there
aren't many craft workers around the world with the skills and capacity
for the quality work I sought). If you click on the link on Arnold's name
you will find a box he made for George Eastman Museum that houses,
and preserves, and displays the Hesler interpositive of Abraham Lincoln
(an historically relevant glass image of Abraham Lincoln). I saw it live
and I was very impressed.

On this project, he consulted with an authority on Southworth & Hawes
as I did not have the needed dimensions for these apparatus and he also
wanted to get a better understanding of the function and purpose of
each item. I think now he is also getting into daguerreotypy.

Check out some of the Southworth & Hawes work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaQca9AB8qc

As of today a few of the items shown on my website are on their way to
an international contemporary daguerreotype exhibit that will open in NY
on April 2, 2013 at the Center for Alternative Photography. Btw, this show
was created and set up by Alan Bekhuis from NZ.

I am happy to wait for the end of the show to get my items that will be
exhibited. Meanwhile, Arnold will start making me a mercury pot.





Mar 31, 2013 at 03:16 AM





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