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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 24-70 and kids


Hello all. Starting to consider picking up the new Canon 24-70. I currently have the 70-200 II IS lens which is certainly my favorite,but after an hour or so of walking - it gets heavy. I do also own a 4 other L primes. BUT, I find myself just too limited by the loss of zoom. So, I really am considering the 24-70 and ditching most if not all my primes. But, I have a question. I main shoot pix of my kids. Be it snap type shots or some more studio related portraits. I currently own the 5D Mark II and wondered if this would be a good option. Again, I really only shoot pix of family -- not much of a landscape person. It along side the 70-200 would be my portrait go to lens.

Thanks all, Pete



Mar 23, 2013 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 24-70 and kids


24-70 is an excellent focal range on a FF camera. It sounds like you mostly enjoy taking portraits though, and that is largely within the domain of the 70-200 that you already have.

If you are hoping to just capture the lives of your kids then I think a 24-70 would be an excellent general purpose lens for you. Just know that it won't be cracking out portraits that are quite as flats distortion wise as the 70-200.



Mar 23, 2013 at 03:18 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 24-70 and kids


I use a 24-70L mark 1 on my 5DII and 1DIII love it great for kids shots


Mar 23, 2013 at 03:19 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 24-70 and kids


Pete, you have to ask yourself if the shorter zoom is going to help you at all . You say that after a while the 70-200 gets too heavy but if alot of your shots you get following your kids round are in the longer ranges of the 70-200 then the shorter zoom is not going to help much (unless you can get in closer) . In which case your still going to be carting the 70-200 round with you as well .

The 24-70 mk2 looks a fantastic lens but it could be an expensive bag weight if you still find your using the long zoom .
Maybe adding a 70-200/4 for when you don't want the extra heft of the 2.8 . In fact I bet you could find a very good 24-70 mk1 and a 70-200/4 IS for the same cost as the mk2 .
Ok you loose a stop but gain times when you can still shoot

By the way there is a way to make the 70-200/2.8 smaller and lighter (or at least seem like it is) i bought a 120-300 sigma and since using that for a few weeks my 80-200L seems like a feather weight



Mar 23, 2013 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 24-70 and kids


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
By the way there is a way to make the 70-200/2.8 smaller and lighter (or at least seem like it is) i bought a 120-300 sigma and since using that for a few weeks my 80-200L seems like a feather weight






Mar 23, 2013 at 03:35 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 24-70 and kids


Why not consider the 24-105L? An excellent walk-around lens without

weight of the 70-200 L, which I also own and use. For low-light candid shots

such as in Vegas casinos I use the 5D3-135L combo. The 24-105 L seems

pretty nimble in my opinion, just right for photographing kids using the 5D3.



Mar 23, 2013 at 03:48 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 24-70 and kids


Hey, all thanks for the comments/suggestions!! Again, I do love the 70-200 - it's not going anywhere. But, if I dump my primes…70 will be my widest. Often times we find ourselves going out to eat, etc where space is certainly a concern and in that case I usually use a prime (50 being my wides). The 24-70 would, it seems to me be a welcomed addition. I would use that as my primary walk around and the 70-200 all other times.

Ian -- what you mentioned is correct. I do often shoot the long side of the 200, but that is if space permits. Just concerned that I won't always have that luxury, And with that I usually bring a prime instead. Then, I miss the benefits of a zoom when we leave the cramped space. I am leaning towards the 24-70, but the 24-105 is a good thought also Gary. But, as Ian stated -- maybe I will just take a prime strap a 10lb weight on it and the 70-200 will feel light once again.


Thanks all, Pete



Mar 23, 2013 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 24-70 and kids


sell the 5D II, add some cash to by a 5D III, also keep all the L primes, for what you are shooting you will be happy !


Mar 23, 2013 at 04:26 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 24-70 and kids


Rent one and try it for a week, then report back on your thoughts.

I like Ian's suggestion for going with a 70-200 f4 and the Vi 24-70 or the 24-105 if funds are tight. If you were a paid pro, then just go for the new 24-70 for sure.

Paul



Mar 23, 2013 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 24-70 and kids


I knew someone would throw that 5D MIII into the mix!! Looked at that also for an upgrade. I think the AF alone will help for those fast moving kids. Looks like I will take the rental route and find out for myself.

Thanks all, Pete



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 24-70 and kids


I use a 24-70. For photographing kids in general I would use a 24-105.


Mar 23, 2013 at 06:26 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 24-70 and kids


By the way in my suggestions I was in no way saying get rid of the 70-200/2.8 mk2 .

Just like my 80-200 (which is about the same heft) there are always times I'd want to use it .
I'm also looking for a smaller option for the lighter bag days . But I think my choice is comming back down to the 70-300 IS (not the L)



Mar 23, 2013 at 07:04 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 24-70 and kids


aladyforty wrote:
I use a 24-70L mark 1 on my... 1DIII love it...


Me too - they seem made for each other. It is a great child chasing combination.



Mar 24, 2013 at 01:28 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 24-70 and kids


Paul Mo wrote:
Me too - they seem made for each other. It is a great child chasing combination.

Ive found that it is just as good on my 7D and 1DIII but it sure seems made for the 5DII



Mar 24, 2013 at 05:53 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 24-70 and kids


I had 24-105 w/ 5D2 for a year or so, really useful lens. I had the 24-70 v1 with it for a couple months, personally didn't have enough confidence in that lens @ 2.8 to use it @ 2.8. felt that was really silly, so went back to the longer reach version with IS (ie, the 24-105).

then got the 5D3, and went for the new 24-70. i do not hesitate to use it at 2.8. the lens is a marvel. reminds me of shooting with the EF-S 17-55. it's better wide open (but w/o the IS) (well and I like the 24mm, I digress)

for kids indoors, I appreciate having a very usable 2.8. to keep ISO down and to increase background blur (clutter removal!! ).

I like doing "environmental" portraits. the kid in 1/3 of the frame, what s/he is up to in the remainder, or just the context of their actions.

if you can swing it financially, the 24-70 is a joy on FF methinks. rental seems a great way to give it a go... good luck!!



Mar 24, 2013 at 06:07 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 24-70 and kids


There is another way to "lighten" the 70-200 *if* you are using a standard neck strap - get a Black Rapid strap (or other cross-shoulder design). It made a huge difference on my neck when carrying the 70-200II or the 100-400 all day. Try one.

The 24-70 f/2.8 II is a terrific lens. It is nearly (if not) prime sharp at all apertures. It does not have IS, which may not be a consideration for fast-moving kids anyway. I use this lens for wedding photography, portraits, and as a general walk-around favorite.



Mar 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 24-70 and kids


I used the mkI on a 1D3 for kids and it was great. I sold both those a while ago and now mainly use a 70-200 when outdoors on a 1Ds2. I've also recently picked up a 24-105 for a bargain (£200!) so I'll be giving that a go as well now. The new 24-70 is in my future, a couple of years off at least though!


Mar 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 24-70 and kids


Im usually shooting the kid at f4 1/125 and auto iso, at least that's the custom function on my 5diii for the wife when she wants to take pictures of the little guy figure f4 gives enough dof that the entire kid should be in focus, 1/125 is fast enough to freeze most things save a full sprint and I generally don't mind noise in family pics simply because its all about the "moment". As such I think the 24-105 is a good choice as it can be shot wide open without much to worry about, gives you good reach, plus used its $700. If you want 2.8 then the 24-70 ii is good but expensive, another option would be the tamron 24-70 2.8 vc, its good and a whole heck of a lot cheaper which may be a concern seeing as you do have kids to pay for. I honestly don't think you can really make a "bad" decision here.


Mar 24, 2013 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 24-70 and kids


I use the 24-70 with the 5D3 and 1DX on my kids a lot and it's a fantastic combo. Since that lens showed up, my use of my fast primes has diminished too, because the IQ wide open is oodles better than the mk1 (well and the 1DX allows me to shoot at higher ISO than the 1Ds3 before, but it's mainly the IQ at f2.8). It also has the same "look" as the 70-200 mk2.




  Canon EOS 5D Mark III    EF24-70mm f/2.8L II USM lens    42mm    f/2.8    1/400s    1600 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS-1D X    EF24-70mm f/2.8L II USM lens    24mm    f/2.8    1/200s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS-1D X    EF24-70mm f/2.8L II USM lens    70mm    f/2.8    1/400s    3200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS-1D X    EF24-70mm f/2.8L II USM lens    24mm    f/2.8    1/160s    6400 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Mar 24, 2013 at 06:25 PM





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