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p.1 #1 · On camera flash at basketball?


While at a state basketball game there was 1 guy using an on camera flash right with the rest of the media under the hoop. This thing was blinding to all the photogs I couldnt imagine being a player. How often does this happen? Would it have been rude to have said something to him? This guy was blasting it during fast breaks and everything.


Mar 14, 2013 at 12:19 AM
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p.1 #2 · On camera flash at basketball?


You did the right thing by biting your tongue and not confronting him. I'm sure he wasn't the first nor the last photographer you will come up against that causes you distress. It happens.


Mar 14, 2013 at 12:56 AM
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p.1 #3 · On camera flash at basketball?


Happened to me the other day. Obviously in my head I was cursing the guy, but it's not my place to tell someone else what is professional or not. If it really, really, realllllyyyy bothers you mention something to the staff working the event, but even then you just look like a pain to them now and they probably won't do anything if they haven't already. You can be the photographer that's worried about others, or you can just worry about yourself and get the job done. Getting the job done just tends to be easier from what I've learned. The most I've "restricted" other "photographers" is on my turf (shooting for the university) when they don't have passes, even then it's just a simple "hey, I'm shooting for SU and I would really appreciate if you could give me some space so I can concentrate on my work, thanks", it's just not our place.


Mar 14, 2013 at 01:46 AM
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p.1 #4 · On camera flash at basketball?


Apparently none of the players or coaches said anything to the official. Otherwise...unless no one complains or if the shooter becomes so obnoxious with the flash....they normally allow this.


Mar 14, 2013 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #5 · On camera flash at basketball?


yup, held my tongue. it just doesnt seem like asking a lot to just tape/clamp it high on the wall does it? maybe 5 second of work?



Mar 14, 2013 at 05:02 AM
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p.1 #6 · On camera flash at basketball?


What game were you referring to? Was this a media photographer? I've seen a few media folks use flash in HS basketball but never under the basket and it's usually a some of the darker gyms. Could this person have been someone from the yearbook staff of the school?

I'm not defending what this individual and not sure if how you stated in your post whether he was media....but there are a lot of people who just ignore or not aware of proper etiquette? And on the flip side of awareness....there is rudeness. These things happen and will continue to happen. I just make it a point to police myself so I'm not the one who is the problem.




Mar 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM
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p.1 #7 · On camera flash at basketball?


I've seen a guy with on camera flash that even shoots from under the basket during freethrows. I would think it has to effect the players, but if the coaches and AD don't say anything it's not my place to say something.


Mar 14, 2013 at 01:30 PM
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p.1 #8 · On camera flash at basketball?


I might have said something to the AD during halftime or after the game. I really dislike when flash is used during sports. I look at it from the players aspect.


Mar 14, 2013 at 01:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · On camera flash at basketball?


I think it is rude to the other shooters. If a flash is being used and it mounted in the rafters or corners of the room, I know where they are. But when the other guy has mobility I may end up with unpredictable shadows.

I don't know that an on camera flash would be much more distracting than other flash devices.



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p.1 #10 · On camera flash at basketball?


by no means is this the end of the world. im just wondering if others saw it as an issue. if not, blast away. i just always thought that on camera flash under the basket was a no go. hence why i asked. it wasnt so bad an issue that i said anything but its pretty easy to clamp it on a bleacher. maybe the guy couldnt go wireless? i really didnt look or ask about gear.

but im glad i mentioned it. i understand now its a tolerated practice and holding your tongue is the right thing to do.

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Mar 14, 2013 at 06:08 PM
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p.1 #11 · On camera flash at basketball?


If you're at a state tourney, then likely he was media...they don't just let anyone get access to the floor in my experience. If you said something to him, then you'd be interfering with his work. Best that you held your tongue as it is not your place to say.

As far as on-camera flash under the hoop, the local news photographer uses onboard flash quite frequently under the basket...even during free throw attempts but he usually waits until after the player makes the shot. He's been photographing for the local paper for over 20 years and no one has complained that I know of.



Mar 15, 2013 at 01:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · On camera flash at basketball?


Turn around and look at the crowd, you'll probably see 1000 flashes going off in the stands from the fans. Nothing near as powerful as what a serious photographer right on the floor would cause but it's still there.

So the players & coaches get used to it, it's part of learning to play at a high level, just like a giant bunch of fans taunting or waving signs behind the basket during free throws.



Mar 15, 2013 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #13 · On camera flash at basketball?


This is basketball and flashes are allowed. Not going to bother other shooters unless he/she is taking pictures of them. Ever see the distraction that fans behind the basket put out for a foul shooter (free throws)? The thing to be working on is getting cameras allowed for golf!


Mar 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #14 · On camera flash at basketball?


so if someone were to be escorted out for using on camera flash under the basket the person asking them to leave would be out of line? thx for all the input guys! like i said im glad to learn its a tolerated practice.


Mar 17, 2013 at 02:45 AM
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p.1 #15 · On camera flash at basketball?


Here in Florida it's against the FHSA rules to use on-camera flash


Mar 22, 2013 at 01:06 PM
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p.1 #16 · On camera flash at basketball?


Was anyone using overhead flash at that state event? Since I use flash when I can, I've asked photographers with cameras set for their overhead lights show me photos if I took one at the same time. From what I've seen their photos are not effected by an on-camera flash, but if some were shooting with available light, then the on-camera or overhead flash would have effected those photos. What kind of camera was the photographer using. I know of a photographer (not me) who finally could afford to upgrade last month to a 1DMk2n from an 1DMk1 (and he freelances for the Omaha and his local paper). I wouldn't like to shoot above 800 if I was using the Mk1 and I try not to use 1600, even on my Mk2n (thus the need for flash). Who was the photographer working for and does his media outlet require flashed photos for their use? If you are talking about high school basketball in Iowa, then it is I you are talking about and I apologize for blowing out your photos and it was good that you sat on the other side to get more non blown out photos. And, yes my flash was compensating for a lower iso setting which I corrected (using a lower flash setting) within a game or 2 after someone said something to me.


Mar 23, 2013 at 06:29 AM
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p.1 #17 · On camera flash at basketball?


In my area, flashes are not allowed...I've seen the yearbook photographers shut down for using them.

However, both my daughters played hoops and I asked them (after a game where the yearbook photog was using flash for a short time) if they (or their teammates) were bothered by them and both said no...a) they don't notice the photogs at the baseline and b) they weren't noticing the flash....their attention was on the court and game.

Chris



Mar 24, 2013 at 12:45 AM





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