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Samuli Vahonen
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p.5 #1 · p.5 #1 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


There was some discussion on Alternative Image Thread about blue shadows and how to handle them. I think photo processing discussion is better done here, and since this image is never going to be worth anything I have no issues giving the RAW-file to public.

RAW:
20130317_11-49-40.CR2 28-Mar-2013 19:37 28.1M
(right click -> save link as...)

How I processed it:


Script:
1. In Apple Aperture this required heavy slider moving (usually I don't do anything else than WB so this represents "extreme PP" for me). You can see values I used from picture below, numbers in brackets represent Apple Aperture default value: Recovery (0), Blackpoint (3), Vibrancy (0), Highlights (0), Shadows (0), Mid Contrast (0).

2. Image exported as 16-bit AdobeRGB TIFF from Apple Aperture
2. Resize to fit into 972x972 square with ImageMagick using Lanczos (convert image.tiff -define filter:filter=Lanczos -resize '972x972' image972.tif)
3. In PhotoShop change color profile to gamma 1 profile, USM 200% 0.2px save back to TIFF
4. Convert TIFF to JPG with ImageMagick (convert image972.tif -quality 92 image972.jpg)

Color sample of tree with Kodak Q60 color target - color should be very accurate at least near the location of Q60 color target:


Samuli



Mar 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM
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p.5 #2 · p.5 #2 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Bump! This thread needs more RAWs. I cant do anything with a tree, sry Samuli :-)

And thanks Rusty, fefo, james, phillip & Samuli for doing my image(s) very inspirational variation in all kinds of dimensions.



Mar 29, 2013 at 03:55 PM
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p.5 #3 · p.5 #3 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


I'm quite curious about how to use that Q60 target.


Mar 29, 2013 at 04:44 PM
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p.5 #4 · p.5 #4 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Cropped it to 4x3. Light touches in ACR. In PS did some de-saturation, contrast adjustment and some curves.

http://shimonmor.com/TEMP/TREE.jpg

http://shimonmor.com/TEMP/ACR.jpg



Mar 29, 2013 at 06:10 PM
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p.5 #5 · p.5 #5 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


raw file (should work, did for me):
http://www.filedropper.com/028

ACR defaults:


My edit:


Double processed the raw file for color and detail in foreground vs sky. Brought out more blues in foreground and did dodging and burning on dunes. Warmed up sky and worked on the color.



Mar 29, 2013 at 06:19 PM
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p.5 #6 · p.5 #6 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Love this image. Very moody.

I thought I would try a different tack than Zaitz's and go with more local contrast and detail so I did a single image tone map in Photomatix and then cleaned it up in PS with some contrast adjustment and slight noise reduction.

http://shimonmor.com/TEMP/028.jpg



Mar 29, 2013 at 06:56 PM
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p.5 #7 · p.5 #7 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread




Samuli

Must bow to your resizing skills. And ablity to use ImageMagick. I know how to use old DOS command line, but in this case Im bit clueless how to use that thing.. Mine is resized using Lanczos too, but somehow you have way more details than I. Tho I dont know how high was original sharpening (maybe I should tune it up notch or two).

Anyway, my take on your really difficult photo.. saved as JPEG lvl10.

Edit: Re-uploaded different version. Figured out which kind of Lanczos you are using. Tho I didnt use it.

Edited on Mar 29, 2013 at 08:30 PM · View previous versions



Mar 29, 2013 at 07:10 PM
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p.5 #8 · p.5 #8 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


shmn wrote:
Love this image. Very moody.


i was going to say sensual.

been very busy lately, will try to pick a favorite from everybody's fine edit's of my raw and work on the new ones.



Mar 29, 2013 at 08:09 PM
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p.5 #9 · p.5 #9 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2256/20130317114940variant1.jpg


Mar 29, 2013 at 08:51 PM
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p.5 #10 · p.5 #10 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Blue Velvet

http://imageshack.us/a/img248/7281/028mirandablue1280.jpg

Sand of Time

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/7788/0282miranda1280.jpg



Mar 29, 2013 at 09:25 PM
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p.5 #11 · p.5 #11 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread




Pretty remarkable photo. My vision of sunset over dunes in sorta "Velvia" colors.



Mar 29, 2013 at 10:03 PM
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p.5 #12 · p.5 #12 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


A rendering.







Mar 29, 2013 at 10:32 PM
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p.5 #13 · p.5 #13 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


This is more fun than I probably would have expected it to be.


20130317_11-49-40.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr


028.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr


028-2.jpg by Taylor Sherman, on Flickr



Mar 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM
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p.5 #14 · p.5 #14 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


15bit, The Kodak Q60 patch colors are known (Kodak lists them on ftp-site), so it can be used for many purposes. For example back in ~2003 (or so, can't remember exactly) there was one guy who made Excel-macro what created ultra high quality ICC profile (the ICC profiles made with commercial cheap programs are generally very bad quality, based to small mapping tables, which most likely cause as many issues as they solve). Also this target is quite good for manual evaluation assuming you have good monitor and monitor profiler. And it's publicly available (or at least was), thou quite expensive (~100USD), so it's quite good reference for colours, I use it sometimes, but only when I'm carrying Kata Ul-222 bag since I keep it there

For this "color reference photo" I used it to see do I need to change anything else than white balance and tint (based on color picker RGB values compared against my memory of what kind of values I should get from few control colors I use frequently).






Mescalamba, I don't add any sharpening to RAWs (Apple Aperture has "box" which I can add to adjustments, but it's sharpening is awful, similar to Lightrooms sharpening, thou I haven't tried that for few years). I get similar sharpness and detail no matter RAW-converter I use, it's just question how one resizes the image. Based on my findings there are two methods which work: Lanczos and step sharpening. The "bicubic" and other methods make the small textures disappear and make images look bad - adding sharpening in final size to that textureless image just enhances the edges but does nothing to textures. Some discussion about ImageMagic was in Sharpening for non-PS users.






Zaits, your sunset photo is really nice, thanks for sharing. Thou it was difficult - nothing worked which works with 5DmkII files. No matter how I turned sliders in Apple Aperture I could not get what I wanted (almost got but then there was side effect of "halo" above the dunes in middle distance similar as Taylor's image). So I exported -1.3EV, 0EV, 1.3EV and combined in PhotoMatix Pro tone mapping and finalized in PhotoShop (removed sensor dust, adjusted black point and gamma).



Samuli



Mar 30, 2013 at 03:58 AM
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p.5 #15 · p.5 #15 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Here is my version of the sunset over the dunes, beautiful photo by the way.







Mar 30, 2013 at 06:09 AM
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p.5 #16 · p.5 #16 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


And here is a b&w version of the tree.

Edit: smaller size







Mar 30, 2013 at 06:27 AM
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p.5 #17 · p.5 #17 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Here's my take.

http://www.planetwidephoto.com/_images/FM/20130317_11-49-40.jpg



Mar 30, 2013 at 08:24 AM
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p.5 #18 · p.5 #18 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Zaitz wrote:
raw file (should work, did for me):
http://www.filedropper.com/028


That is a beautiful shot. And beautifully developed too looking at the contributions posted.

Almost nothing to add except for one thing which annoys me with that image. Things are *supposed* to get lighter the further back you goes to create depth. The foreground dunes in the original almost does the opposite. Hence I had to try to reverse that somewhat - to see what depth I got. Here's the result.



Sort of hard to notice if you dont compare two images, but it is at least different depth-wise. Compare for example with Samulis version just above. Comparing these two makes his version look like a cloud is covering the mid distance. At least to me

Fill-light was only ACR action. Then in PS: Three Levels and a graduated filter on each. And finally a color layer.






Mar 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM
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p.5 #19 · p.5 #19 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Mescalamba wrote:
Pretty remarkable photo. My vision of sunset over dunes in sorta "Velvia" colors.


Wonderful.



Mar 30, 2013 at 01:24 PM
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p.5 #20 · p.5 #20 · The how-would-you-process-my-image thread


Lots of ways to go on this one ... excellent capture.







Mar 30, 2013 at 01:47 PM
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