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p.3 #1 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


CMB Photo wrote:
will wait a year for built quality... how much is Canon's TS now? Wanna see how much samyang will affect canon's selling policy.
I bet some people will freak out seeing red ring on Nikon or Sony...


Why? There are quite a few Tokina, Sigma, etc. gold-ringed lenses on Nikon bodies.

EBH



Feb 20, 2013 at 12:59 AM
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p.3 #2 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


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I sold my Canon 24TSE after I bought the 24-70 f2.8 mk2. I find 17 a much more useful size for this style of shooting and I do only landscapes. I wish I could get a 14 or 15 TSE. Actually shift only would be fine.

The Canon 24TSE mk2 was the sharpest lens under 500mm that I ever owned. But it was used mostly without tilt or shift. At 24 and lower, shift is the most valuable feature and as you get wider shift is almost imperative to avoid perspective distortion. I returned my Zeiss 15 f2.8 because it
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Completely agree about the necessity for tilt with lenses wider than 24mm (on full frame). Shift is what attracted me to the 17, other than it's impressive overall optical quality. It's great for one-shot captures where such correction is desired and is better done in-camera than in post. I've found I rarely use tilt, unless extremely close and unable to stop down much.

But that leads me to wonder about the real value of T/S lenses currently. Certainly in the past, when shooting film it was very desirable to get it right in-camera. The reason I wonder is I've recently seen a fair number of stunning architectural images where the photographer literally shot handheld with a cheap DSLR and kit zoom, maybe 20, 30, 40 images and ran them through software to blend together a single final image.

I suppose a T/S will still be useful for in-camera correction of scenes that don't lend themselves well to the above technique, whatever those may be...



Feb 20, 2013 at 01:48 AM
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p.3 #3 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


Well tilt shift is great for getting the desired composition right straight out of the camera. That way you get the maximum amount of resolution. The other alternative is to use a wider lens and crop accordingly.

Tilt-Shift lenses feel wider than their focal lengths suggests because you can include quite a bit of sky in landscape shots and also quite a bit of buildings since you can shift up and essentially getting the same results as if you levelled the camera using a much wider lens and cropping the bottom of the image.



Feb 20, 2013 at 02:00 AM
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p.3 #4 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


If you shoot without shift then you have to shoot wider, correct for lens distortion (which we know kills some resolution ) then correct for perspective distortion which can kill imabe quality further.

Alternatively you can use a longer lens and shoot multiple frames and stitch, and hope conditions dont change during shooting and that you get it all right and that it stitches properly.

If you want the best results for a single exposure on 35mm a ts is the best option.

I also use tilt a lot even at 24mm, if your shift stitching you have a fov of 14mm..



Feb 20, 2013 at 02:10 AM
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p.3 #5 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


PhilDrinkwater wrote:
I've never had a tilt shift lens. I've never been that bothered, especially for the price, as it's very specialist for weddings and I wonder if the effect is becoming a little old now.

If this was 600 ($999), I might give it a go though, but I bet it'll be 899 or 999

I don't get why you would say this is a specialist lens for weddings. The Canon TSE 24 is the ultimate landscape photography lens.



Feb 20, 2013 at 05:02 AM
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Very happy with my Canon 17 TSE and keep the 5DII just for it. TIP the 17 becomes a 24mm TSE with a 1.4TC. That combo has a huge, effective, image circle since the TC only uses the center of the lens.
After good reviews I am looking forward to buying a 24mm TSE Samyang for my D800e.



Feb 20, 2013 at 02:37 PM
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Completely agree about the necessity for tilt with lenses wider than 24mm (on full frame). Shift is what attracted me to the 17, other than it's impressive overall optical quality. It's great for one-shot captures where such correction is desired and is better done in-camera than in post. I've found I rarely use tilt, unless extremely close and unable to stop down much.

But that leads me to wonder about the real value of T/S lenses currently. Certainly in the past, when shooting film it was very desirable to get it right in-camera. The reason I wonder is I've recently seen
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I believe what you are describing is a gigapan unit which can be purchased for $895 in the pro verion. For landscapes it is unbeatable and you can literally capture images at almost any resolution you desire, but it's not the most efficient method of do architectural work.



Feb 20, 2013 at 02:52 PM
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Hmmmm At $1K it will have to be much sharper than the version 1 of Canon's TSE 24 given that you are losing the automatic aperture control.

I have the EDMIKA converted Canon FD 35mm Tilt Shift and that lens is as sharp as any lens I own including Zeiss 21 and 35mm' s but the old school aperture ring is kind of a drag.



Feb 21, 2013 at 04:35 PM
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dadgummit wrote:
Hmmmm At $1K it will have to be much sharper than the version 1 of Canon's TSE 24 given that you are losing the automatic aperture control.

I have the EDMIKA converted Canon FD 35mm Tilt Shift and that lens is as sharp as any lens I own including Zeiss 21 and 35mm' s but the old school aperture ring is kind of a drag.


+1

As well as the exif info.

Still hoping Samyang will do a shift-only in the 14-18mm range.



Feb 21, 2013 at 04:57 PM
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dadgummit wrote:
Hmmmm At $1K it will have to be much sharper than the version 1 of Canon's TSE 24 given that you are losing the automatic aperture control.

I have the EDMIKA converted Canon FD 35mm Tilt Shift and that lens is as sharp as any lens I own including Zeiss 21 and 35mm' s but the old school aperture ring is kind of a drag.

Don't get the logic on the 1st part of this. How does lack of auto aperture have anything to do with expected sharpness? I have Samyang 14, 24, & 35mm primes and they are very sharp. The 35 is the rival of the Canon 35.

The manual f-stop is a no brainer. I just set it to what I want for DOF/sharpness/sweetspot & check live view/histogram. Also manual focus w/live view is more accurate than AF.
I added the AF/chip to the lens mainly for EXIF reporting. I set values that will be easily recognized for a particular lens.

If I had money to burn, yea I could buy all L glass, but I don't. Paying 1/2 or much less for nearly the same IQ or better is a very easy decision. While the intro price of $999 might bother some, why should Samyang NOT price it at 1/2 the Canon offering. The price will eventually slide about $100 over the next year, especially if sales aren't high enough.

Dan



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khurram1 wrote:
I don't get why you would say this is a specialist lens for weddings. The Canon TSE 24 is the ultimate landscape photography lens.


I think Phil meant to say that a TS lens is too specialised a lens to buy if you mainly shoot weddings, not that it was in some way specialised for weddings.

Now I know some people do use TS lenses for weddings (a lot but in general it's not required unless you're looking for peculiar DOF effects.



Feb 22, 2013 at 05:57 PM
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Am I the only who thinks that this is one ugly lens?


Feb 22, 2013 at 08:39 PM
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iberjan wrote:
Am I the only who thinks that this is one ugly lens?

What, as in Beauty & the Beast

Don't really care what a lens looks like as long as it does it's optical magic with the scene I expect



Feb 22, 2013 at 09:12 PM
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dswiger wrote:
Don't really care what a lens looks like as long as it does it's optical magic with the scene I expect


+1

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Feb 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM
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p.3 #15 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


Yakim Peled wrote:
+1

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


+2 Looks good to me....even has a red ring.



Feb 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM
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I like the price knowing from experience the quality of Samyangs lenses...but I with it wasn't so wide...


Feb 23, 2013 at 06:51 PM
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galenapass wrote:
+2 Looks good to me....even has a red ring.


Hahaaa

I, meanwhile, would buy the Canon on looks alone. This one looks like it has jagged edges one could cut himself one if not careful.



Feb 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM
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iberjan wrote:
I, meanwhile, would buy the Canon on looks alone. This one looks like it has jagged edges one could cut himself one if not careful.


Hey we said was sharp!. You thought it was so just optically?

Dan



Feb 25, 2013 at 06:04 PM
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p.3 #19 · Samyang 24mm Tilt-Shift lens will retail for $999!


Rokinon gives May 2013 release date for T-S 24mm F3.5 lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/03/13/rokinon-gives-may-2013-release-for-ts-24mm-f3-5-lens




Mar 13, 2013 at 09:39 PM
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EOS20 wrote:
Rokinon gives May 2013 release date for T-S 24mm F3.5 lens:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/03/13/rokinon-gives-may-2013-release-for-ts-24mm-f3-5-lens



And not included in the above reference but on the DPR summary on their front page:
" It'll be available in Canon, Nikon and Sony mounts, at an RRP of $1299.99."

I don't know how the RRP compares to Fred's US pre order price at the top of this thread?
"The US retail price is set to $999. About half the price of the Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L."
It makes the pre order price quite the deal!
Mike K



Mar 14, 2013 at 01:23 AM
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