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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · New M240 Delayed


Looks like the New M Delayed Until May now.

Ugh.



Feb 15, 2013 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · New M240 Delayed


Well that sucks and adds insult to injury for some of us.

Rich



Feb 15, 2013 at 06:45 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · New M240 Delayed


It's always the last couple of weeks/months that hurt the most - when dates start to slip.

Though honestly, I think we'd probably all agree that it's better Leica take the time to get things right NOW rather than once it's in the wild. They got burned on the M8 and probably play it safer these days as a result.



Feb 15, 2013 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · New M240 Delayed


That's so true.

Similarly I've been putting my fingers crossed on the new Zeiss 135 f2.

DoubleNegative wrote:
It's always the last couple of weeks/months that hurt the most - when dates start to slip.

Though honestly, I think we'd probably all agree that it's better Leica take the time to get things right NOW rather than once it's in the wild. They got burned on the M8 and probably play it safer these days as a result.




Feb 15, 2013 at 07:15 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · New M240 Delayed


is that official from Leica?

at least it gives us added time to save up for it

... probably also because of the overwhelming negative reaction to the pre-production samples with banding, etc?



Feb 15, 2013 at 07:28 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · New M240 Delayed


Even when Leica says something "officially" it's not necessarily accurate and subject to change. In fact, the only shipping timeframe they gave that was "official" was "early 2013." The later Feb-Mar timeframe was made by S.D. (or was it A.K. I forgot offhand) and was more "unofficial."

This latest delay is also unofficial. It surely has something to do with quality of the images or video, but not because of the ones that have been seen on the web (official via Leica's website or not).



Feb 15, 2013 at 07:45 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · New M240 Delayed


There is the possibility that there was a reaction to something shown up til now, which forced them to do a rethink and extend the development a bit. I would hope that this might be the centre-only-liveview.


Feb 15, 2013 at 07:54 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · New M240 Delayed


There are other posts about this on LUF that cite some actual sources, but not necessarily any more concrete. It appears B&H recently updated expected delivery to April 30th. Also someone enrolled in a Leica-organized M240 class indicated it was postponed from next week until sometime in May...


Feb 15, 2013 at 07:55 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · New M240 Delayed


DoubleNegative wrote:
This latest delay is also unofficial. It surely has something to do with quality of the images or video, but not because of the ones that have been seen on the web (official via Leica's website or not).


Why not because of those images? There is considerable banding in many of those, especially the higher ISO images across several firmware iterations.



Feb 15, 2013 at 08:02 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
Why not because of those images? There is considerable banding in many of those, especially the higher ISO images across several firmware iterations.


I guess a matter of semantics, then. One of the supposed reasons for the new (and previous) delay is because of the firmware and the tweaking they're still doing. I say not because of those images - because it's technically ANY and ALL images, posted or not...



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · New M240 Delayed


what they need to do is make a film camera with a built in scanner, but no sensor

and some type of instantly developing film

take a photograph, the film develops and as it advances to the next frame a scanner scans a .tif of the negative.

then you take out a roll of developed film and you have the image files to download.

get rid of all this silly sensor business




Feb 15, 2013 at 08:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · New M240 Delayed


im just trying to think of a way leica can stay the same forever so they don't have to put everybody through their changes


Feb 15, 2013 at 08:38 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · New M240 Delayed


Leica has never given a firm ship date. They have always said it would be "early 2013" which could mean anytime up until the end of June. They are not late.... Yet. I can't afford it anyway.


Feb 15, 2013 at 09:13 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · New M240 Delayed


goosemang wrote:
im just trying to think of a way leica can stay the same forever so they don't have to put everybody through their changes


Drop the digital bodies and concentrate on the M7/MP.



Feb 15, 2013 at 09:31 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · New M240 Delayed


rscheffler wrote:
Why not because of those images? There is considerable banding in many of those, especially the higher ISO images across several firmware iterations.


Maybe they need time to negotiate a deal with Sony for a customized sensor package tuned to properly support M lenses from wide to long?



Feb 15, 2013 at 09:45 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · New M240 Delayed


DoubleNegative wrote:
Drop the digital bodies and concentrate on the M7/MP.


Concentrate what? These are finished products.



Feb 15, 2013 at 09:58 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · New M240 Delayed


^ Well, concentrate on just building them.


Feb 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · New M240 Delayed


They are building them already...


Feb 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · New M240 Delayed


naturephoto1 wrote:
Well that sucks and adds insult to injury for some of us.

Rich


Seriously?



Feb 16, 2013 at 05:03 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · New M240 Delayed


carstenw wrote:
...centre-only-liveview.


What? CENTRE ONLY LIVE VIEW. You're kidding, right?



Feb 16, 2013 at 05:10 AM
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