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| p.2 #17 · CPS Eligibility Requirements |
You do not need to be a professional in order to join CPS. I have a friend who shoots nature and vacation shots for fun. He really enjoys his hobby, but never earned any income from it and has no plans to. But with a 5DII and 5DIII plus a drool worthy collection of glass (24 F1.4, 50mm F1.0,85mm F1.2, 24-70 F2.8, 70-200 F2.8, 200mm F1.8, 300mm F2.8) and probably more, CPS never questioned him while accepting his $100 for Gold member ship
You are, according to their plan, required to be a pro. The flaw is, they don't check up on it and if you pay the money well then you paid the money. Just because he has the gear shouldn't make him eligible.
As I've said multiple times, if they aren't checking then sure, sign up. Canon has taken a professional program and turned it into a "members club" of who has the amount of gear to get there or not.
Got a good laugh at this today. If some well to do hobbyist can afford the amount of gear it takes to qualify then so be it. Just because you claim to be a "pro", have a website, maybe even paying clients, and have a bunch of expensive gear doesn't necessarily make you one. Whos to say your work is any more important than the photos of some guys cat? There are plenty of hobbyists who can shoot circles around many a "working pro". And let us all not forget, without the hobbyist consumer subsidizing the photo world with their new rebel every year we'd all be paying a lot more for less.
Why should he benefit from the added perks? He's not a pro (why is this so hard to get your head around). Why are my photographs more important (or any pro's photographs for that matter)...let's see, because I earn a living with mine. Some measurebator that is putting up photographs of his cat or dog on FM, shot in his living room at ISO 738957392857302857 just to see if he has a good copy...that's not earning him a living. That's why there's a difference. Shooting for me =food in my belly, a roof over my head and a future for my son.
Shooting for the guy taking photos of his cat=a guy not getting paid for that
This isn't about if a pro is better than a hobbyist. No one has made such a suggestion. This is about a hobbyist signing up for a program that he/she shouldn't be eligible for. That's what it's about.
This also isn't about the "hobbyist consumer subsidzing the photo world". This is purely about the ethics of someone who isn't a pro, taking away from someone who is.
love seeing people getting in a twist over this. has the fact that canon doesn't care who joins impacted your service? do you think a company as large as canon hasn't considered the impact that additional non-professionals joining CPS will have? do you think they haven't staffed accordingly?
everybody thinks it should be elite like nikon. meanwhile over on the nikon forum people can't get a friggin' battery door replaced and their AF points don't work. check out that green grass...
If you read what I wrote, you would've seen that it hasn't impacted me yet...you cannot deny the possibility exists. To do so shows ignorance of the situation.
I didn't say it needed to be like Nikon. It's a program geared towards PROFESSIONALS. One would assume then...by the standards set forth in the program...that you need to be professional to join!
Think about this, you have to meet certain requirements to get on welfare. According to your logic, why should anyone get their panties in a twist?
The way CPS is currently set up, you can just register your products (even if you don't own them) on their site. By your logic, people entering in numbers they don't have shouldn't be a big deal anyway.
What you fail to see is, there's rules in life. Some rules are enforced. Other rules aren't. You're expected though as an upright, moral and ethical human being to follow those rules. The fact that you're arguing against following the rules set forth just shows what kind of people do this.
It isn't about "it's not big deal", it's not about "the consumer market",it's not about "the hobbyist that is better than the pro" it's about a bunch of people who aren't professionals claiming to be professionals so they can receive perks that they shouldn't damn well have.
I understand the notion about professionals needing to have their equipment back in time because they depend on it to earn money, whereas hobbyists generally don't have such constraints. However you come off as arrogant and elitist by repeatedly referring to "non-pros" as bunch of people taking pictures of their cats. In reality there are a large number of "pros" who are mediocre photographers at best and there are so many non-pros here on these forums who put far more effort into their photography and display a much higher quality creative work than such pros. So lets not confuse being "pro" with quality and value of the photographic work.
Also it is not quite true that "pros" are the only ones needing quick turn around. Imagine I have a 10 day photographic trip planned or I am leaving for a safari that I have spent thousands of dollars on and have planned for months, or even that its my daughters university graduation in a couple of days. And I find out that my camera broke. Well I don't care whether I earn money from it or not but for me having my camera back in time is as important as any other person even if that other person happens to be President's official photographer or whatever. At the end of the day I imagine that only those people will pay for the CPS membership who are serious enough in their photographic pursuits. For example I would likely never try to get CPS membership because I really don't do any time critical photographic work.
At the end of the day most non-pros are not going to put their gear through as much abuse as pros do and are much less likely to have to send in their gear for repairs. So you have all these extra people paying into the program who rarely use it. At the end of the day this should actually help the pros.